how we are being dumbed down

Johnny,

Your blog gives the feel of Quantum Physics or something like that.

You know, when I was younger, I sometimes thought I was part tree, because I often woke up with wood.

Angel,

I might be half wolf. Especially when I was younger on Saturday nights out.

By the way, you ever read a whole book? I fall asleep reading trying to read a whole book.

I think Johnny must be a smart guy if he can read a whole chapter of a book. That's amazing!

And also, how the heck is a MAP not a territory. My dog found a city map somewhere, and he won't let me touch it. He guards it. My dog told me, "Nothing against you, Rob. It's a territorial things us dogs have."

Angel,

Where is Johnny. He comes and posts a blog, then just walks out on his guests. Sheesh! What kind of hosting is that? Who does he think he is? You? Me?

Angel,

sometimes I just wait for the movie or video.. and even then, sometimes I fall asleep looking at them.

LOL, can we do that? That would be fun!

Hi Johnny,

Interesting topic.

I agree with Red to a certain extent.
When you think about it, the forces of nature that are holding a tree together so that it doesn't just crumble into atoms and the indescribably subtle reactions and constitiuents of nature that cause it to grow the way it does and take the form that it does are mindbogglingly difficult to even try to understand....especially for a kid in school.

So we tend to look at everything as a whole, as a finished structure...with various parts that have a function and reason and how they relate to each other.
Sure as humans, the top scientists, philosophers and theologians have achieved a fairly sophisticated knowledge level of sub-atomic structure, chemical reaction, forces that either attract or repel, but the truth is, we are still a long way off from understanding the true nature of the universe and all the forces that hold it together in the form that it is in. i am talking of everything from gigantic solar or planetary forces - down to the sub atomic forces, molecular forces that give everyhting finite stable structure.

Whether we believe in God and that this whole universe and all it's complexity was designed and created by a single unfathomably amazingly powerful entity or whether we believe it has all come about by complex random events of nature.....the fact remains....it is so brainmashingly complex.

Those forces and reactions can only adhere to the laws of physics. Within the apparent randomness of nature, every particle and sub-particle that makes up the whole is behaving mathematically and conforming to a mathematically controlled force.

Think I will go and have a lie down after writing that.....

Wow Gypsy, no woman has ever said that to me before

Ok, I'll send some IQ waves at you and get you ready for the mud bath.......

Hello Gra,

Interesting. The book mentions two different kinds of knowledge. There is relative knowledge and absolute knowledge. The West and most of the planet use relative, while eastern are familiar with absolute. They claim meditation, yoga, etc...can lead you to the enlightenment of absolute.

I really do not know, but I suspect that the use of such a small percentage of our brain capacity has a reason.

Red, maybe saying dumbed down might not exactly be the correct wording....but maybe being kept from enlightenment might fit better.




Thank you.


and thank you Gra

Hello Robbie,

In the beginning part, they wrote about the Western belief in a God...looking down upon us and essentially the creator of everything. This was able to happen because Christian religion removed philosophy and science from their standards of being. That is precisely why Galileo was not looked upon fondly by the church.

Eastern mysticism holds that everything has movements. I think it was Gypsy down below who believed everything is vibration. That is true, to it most finite existence everything is moving. (therefore nothing is ever the same) But the question is, what is controlling that movement? From what I understand so far, instead of God looking down upon us from heaven, Eastern mysticism has it that "God", if you will, is within everything and everything, including life, is part of one and the same. I think..anyway. Have to read more. :)

I just think with how we have been taught to live, including the fact that we use such a small portion of our brains currently, there is known to the select few, a way to become more..as they would call it, "enlightened."



But with the so-called knowledge we think we have now, we are pretty much the equivalent to cattle...maybe sheep.

Thanks Robbie



Oh yeah...another thing they say about the Western way of living, it is a good way for egos to develop.

Hello Ded,

No I have not. I have taken a note of that subject. I will check that out, sounds interesting.

Hello Free,

I feel we each have our own destiny. Apparently, you chose the route you did for a reason. It sounds like it was something you personally were comfortable with....but maybe on a deeper level, it served a purpose nobody can quite put a finger on. ....and I mean that in a good way.

Isn't that something, there is as many personalities out there as there are people.

Hello Gypsy,

I agree. I made a reference to your statement in my response to Robbie. I am not exactly sure what it is...but I certainly feel there was something very special about Tesla. Thanks for bringing up his name.

Hi Johnny

Interesting blog!

With regard to the statement you quoted:

"The map is not the territory."

Here is a piece I posted on Poetry Corner:


Experience and Knowledge
Author: socrates44

words are like a map
and experience is the territory
a map can only give knowledge
"about" the territory
it can never give knowledge
"of" the territory
this can only be obtained
through direct experience
~ ~ ~ ~ ~
Posted: Oct 7, 2013


Also, here is my response to a comment on the piece from Redex:

Hi Redex

I hope I can offer some explanation to ease your puzzlement.
From the information posted in your profile, I see you enjoy walking and Nature. You refer to the trees and wild animals. I assume this also refers to the vegetation, natural scenery, layout of the land, streams, lakes, etc. Suppose you wanted to visit a new "Nature" area and someone got a map of it, or drew one, and gave it to you. Then sometime later, you visited the area. You observed a lot of interesting details that were not shown on the map and actually experienced the sensations, feelings and emotions generated by Nature due to your presence in the place. Do you think you could have such an experience from viewing and studying the map only?
This is what the term "about" versus the term "of" indicates.

Gra....not getting carried away at all. That is also a real concern. They are talking about removing the ability to write from schools. In addition, I go to a lot of places where younger employees are working and they cannot figure out simple mathematics for change without some sort of digital device. Thanks very much for the title and about the lecture. I have written that down as well. I would like to look into that.

Great insight, thanks.

Hello Soc,

Wonderfully put...and outstanding with the use of a map for the comprehension of your point. When I first read that in the book, it was like some new reality had shown itself.

Now I am not sure, because I know some of the gist of Eastern Mysticism. But, is it safe to draw assumption it has everything to do with experiencing...and as Usha puts it, not with your eyes and ears? I would also add, not with the conscience mind also?

Thanks Soc.

Ash,

Just for your information, I know the side effects of Adderall. I was just talking to this chick the other night and she was telling me.

...and Ash, that is a true story.