global warming...what do you think?

Harvey producing over 4' of rain in places in Texas and now Irma sustaining 180 mile an hour winds with gust over 200 mph. Not to mention, warmer ocean waters.


What do you think? Is this proof of global warming?


Not to mention, the hurricane season is just starting.
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Hi Johnny. wave

Not many deny global warming. They´re denying whether it´s man made?

We know for a fact that the earth has been going through cycles but has been getting warmer since the ice age.
We do seem to have a big jump in temperatures now. Harvey maybe the first of many....? uh oh
HAARP ? could have also something to do with it uh oh
Hello Johnnywave As for me, my decision on Global warming is still undecided,dunno . But if a person looks back at the history books, in the latter 1300s, the Viking settled in Greenland. It warmed up for 70 to 90 yrs. They grew crops, farmed...... then the weather turned cold, and ended their settling of Greenland. Was that Global warming, or just a cycle of the weather they went thruconfused .
We do have record warm temperatures being set, and also have record cold temps being set. Everytime unual weather events happen, some one blames Global warming, ?????? the one thing for sure is with todays technology , we hear about it Quicker,
Mr johnny_spartan.. Global warming seems to be a man made fable. With temperatures changing sometime like .001 degrees in the last 100 years I can't stand behind it. Data was purposely distorted to claim GW is a serious problem, but what I see was a way to bring the globalist together and start shifting the monies from the USA to the rest of the world.

PS: I've never seen winds of 185 mph, the most ever in this region was 190
Not denying global warming through history we have had ice ages or been swamped with the sea etc, so yes it is happening no doubt.

Man is polluting the planet though and not conserving anything, so we may run out of food as the sea is polluted with plastic no fish, the air is polluted with nuclare distasters and toxic fumes from cars etc, wastefilled sites full of gases now which slowly pollute the air, farmers spraying crops and inoculating animals all needs looking at.
the warming of the globe no doubt will be follwed by floods and then the cold ice age again.
Interesting stuff Simon conversing
but i think the only thing man has got to do with global warming is prevent the inevitable for as long as they can..dunno
think its been used by people to create jobs ..don't agree with most and think these varaitons have been there since time way back ...all that bothers me is that I have enough for a few tanks of oil to keep me snug here
-itchy
I suspect that you are very right there but I sure hope you're wrong...

-conrad
What you are talking about is a period in the history of the earth where much of life we know of today and upon which we humans depend did not exist and it did not exist precisely because of the CO2 levels that you are talking about and the lack of free O2 upon which the vast majority of life forms depend both on land and in the seas. Simplistically speaking, bacteria in the sea eventually consumed the C in the abundant CO2 thus liberation O2 which both reduced the temperature of the planet and made life as we know it possible.

What we are doing nowadays by burning fossil fuel (plus other things such as deforestation) is to reverse the process. Burning organic compounds (petrol for instance) creates water and CO2 by joining O2 from the atmosphere (primarily) to the carbon in fossil fuels. We're essentially reverting the planet back to it's precambrian state where the temperatures soared a massive 7oC higher than today on average (that's devastating for most modern life forms) and the planet was essentially inhospitable to humans.
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Hello Robert,

Thank you for sharing. I agree, there has always been natural disasters. To me, it just seems lately (in the past 10-ish+ years) there has been a lot of extremes.

That is something though...with the Earth and its distance from the sun. I have not really heard of that before.


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Hello Sim,

As a non-scientist myself, it seems to me that our weather has been changing, and fairly rapidly I must say. Three years ago, we had a nearly record cold winter, and the last two, we've had two nearly record warm winters. confused ...of course, lets not forget about everything else too.

I am not sure I would deny evolution...I'll keep an open mind to it, but I would perhaps question it. laugh



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Daniela,

I think that is the million dollar question. Is it man made? There was somebody on the blogs that posted, if I am recalling right here, something about the delicate eco system here on Earth. Maybe mother nature is trying to shake us off, like a dog does when went. dunno


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Hello Non,

That is another possibility. Years ago, I heard where the weather can be manipulated with HAARP. Just recently, it has been said that other countries believe that the U.S. might be weaponizing that power. dunno

If true...and if the eco system is as delicate as many are saying....every action has an equal and opposite reaction.


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1to1,

There is no doubt in my mind that the weather and climate conditions on this planet has not been stable since the beginning of time. I suppose it would be interesting, if possible, to learn how quickly the transformation takes when these climate changes happen. In current times, the changes seem to be taking place somewhat quickly.

Thanks.


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Hello Sea,

With the frequency of extreme weather anomalies lately, I cannot help but wonder about global warming. Maybe you are right though. Maybe global warming is not real.

But with the extremes I have seen, cities being destroyed by hurricanes, record winters (warm/cold), tsunami destruction, earthquake frequency, sinkholes....

Yes, all these things have been around...but Irma is now the most powerful storm ever recorded in the Atlantic Ocean...that is just one example.

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Hello Red,

Well put. Man has been polluting this wonderful planet. Maybe it is time to pay the piper? dunno


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Hello Itch,


wave
I have questioned evolution Johnny mate and before me, other people have been questioning it for ~200 years. I have seen the evidence these giants (ex Charles Darwin PBUH) have collected and I have tried it experimentally myself in the lab on fruit flies and simulated it on a computer. The outcome is an undeniable, loud and resounding: "Yes, it is beyond any conceivable doubt that indeed, evolution is how things really work."

I can understand though that some people are "trained" to look at things differently and will never accept evolution no matter how much evidence one provides... but is alright. I mean .. it's sad but it's their choice. Their business.
Hello Conrad,

Thank you for sharing the data. It is certainly something to consider. Maybe there is something that our greatest scientist of the day are missing. dunno


wave
Hello J.J.,

That is another train of thought that has been expressed. It is said that Al Gore made a lot of money off of spreading the fear of global warming. Now, was he on to something though? dunno laugh But, I think you are on the right path. As being a single ordinary person, what really can one do....except hunker down and be prepared the best way possible. thumbs up

...perhaps though...be conscious of the eco system and treat it with respect....any little bit cannot hurt. I think.


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Sim,

Thank you for the additional information to the other comments, very enlightening...and seems very plausible to a non-scientific mind, such as myself. thumbs up
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Sim,

From an empirical standpoint, I do see the resemblance of some species that have (and do) exist and from a commonsense perspective, I would have to conclude that most likely they came from the same initial creature....hence evolution.

If I am not mistaken, evolution claims all life started from a single cell organism. Now if that were the case, that single cell organism had to come from somewhere...maybe created? ...from God?

laugh dunno


But what still fascinates me today is how different nationalities of people have their own distinct appearances. I know, they claim that environmental forces played a role in that. But, still fascinating though. If I am not mistaken, I think science is on the edge of discovering the differences in brain operation (for lack of a better definition) among these different peoples.

The bottom line, even if evolution is 100% spot on correct, life still had to be created. ...even the evolutionary changes had to be created. Even if those changes are done through environmental factors, those same environmental factors are energy....coming from somewhere. dunno


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Sim....

In addition, with your very own example....the example of the fruit fly. You had to take action (create) to verify that evolution does in fact exist.

Maybe evolution is just part of creationism?

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dunno ....just crossed my mind though.
Sorry Johnny....couldn´t resist LOL beer


Johnny ~ Is it manmade?
All I know for certain is, that in Ireland we have depleted our Ozone layer, and people with fair skins now get burnt whereas, say you are sunning yourself in Italy, or Greece you will tan but not burn because the Ozone layer has not been damaged so much.

I would agree with what has been said about polluting the seas with plastic, Nuclear explosions, the earth has been pillaged [as never before ] for oil, Gold, rainforests cut down with no thought to the effect on climate.
Ironically it is always the poor countries who seem to suffer think Tsunami s.

I do believe that the Earth goes through cycles, as has been said by other bloggers, and I have read same. However, we have really pushed our luck with the amount of Car emissions, pollutants in the seas, antibiotics given to animals force fed for consumption and profit. Pesticides and too many other things to mention here.

I pray all will be safe in the path of Irma as she sweeps up toward Florida.

Take care all who live in these areas.
Very interesting and rather smart question you are asking there John. Indeed, evolution claims that all life on planet earth originated from simple single-cell life forms. The emergence of the mentioned simple life forms is rather mysterious as we are yet unable to replicate that in the lab; however, there are several theories which are wayyy more plausible than a God. This implies that we need to investigate such theories before resorting to a rather unsatisfying and unlikely answer such as that provided by creationists. I'm sure that we'll both agree on that wee bit there.

One such theory is known as the primordial soup theory. That's a funny name alright but the theory is a beauty as you'll see. According to this theory, mixtures of organic compounds (that's where the term "soup" comes from) naturally found in abundance on the planet combined under the primordial earth's conditions (temperature, pressure, reduced atmosphere etc) to spontaneously give rise to simple and later more complex proteins which could interact with themselves and the environment through probably simple chemical reactions. Through further evolution and spontaneous change, these turned into cells which constitute the building blocks of all complex life forms we see around us today including ourselves. Once life was at that point, all it takes is essentially to bunch slightly different cells together to create for instance you/me or a rhino or a fish..

Note that the mathematical laws of probability allow for such an thing to occur spontaneously so we know for a fact that indeed, such a thing can happen by itself! Also, please note that I've skimmed over a lot of the details. Furthermore, I am not a biologist so I would probably be unable to answer more technically challenging questions in this regard. The gist of the theory however is there and the message is: explaining the origin of life on earth doesn't necessarily require the existence of a God.

Indeed, evolution is driven by the fundamental laws of physics which are universal although not "multiversal" meaning that they could be different in some other universe. Sadly, that is not something we will ever be able to experimentally verify but theory suggests that that might be the case. As you said, the laws of physics describe the various ways in which the various forms of energy we see around us interact with each other and with themselves. Here's the thing. The laws of physics are not created! They are cast at the instant of the big bang just like one would cast a die. Imagine throwing a die and you get a 6. Have you created a 6? Nope. Out of a set of 6 possible outcomes (numbers 1 to 6) which were all already there, you picked one and it turned out to be a 6. As far as our beloved laws of physics go, there is an infinite number of possible laws of physics. We just happened to get ours as we know them and they've shaped life on earth as we known it.

The existence of these laws which as we've already agreed describe the way energy interacts does entail the existence of energy in the first place though. The ultimate question, therefore, would be: where did energy come from? I suspect that if I had to tell you that energy came from something, you would then ask me where that something came from but as it turns out, energy came from nothing! How can something came from nothing? Well, imagine digging a hole on a beach. You've dug a hole but right next to it, you've built a wee mound! What am saying is that you can see and experience energy locally in the universe but if you had to sum up all the energy in the universe you would end up with a total of exactly zero! That means that indeed, nothing came from nothing and although we can experience energy every day and we're made of it ourselves, there in fact is no energy in our universe. In conclusion, taking the universe as a whole, there is nothing in the universe and nothing has ever been created despite the fact that we are here ourselves!
Is it man made? The question is what is HAARP really doing?

The LHC in Switzerland what are they really doing as well ?

And now the so called fusion reactor Europe is building in Provence (France)????

What are they really doing ? confused

Of course "they" wouldn't lie to us would they? wink
Johnny, you are not suppose to think - that why god created Alex Jones and Rush Limbaugh, so they could think for you.
Cach....thumbs up Tesla the band and the person are great. grin
Sim,

I understand your explanation, and giving our current understanding of physics....or at least my limited understanding of it, that makes sense.

Kinda like the yin and the yang. There are equal parts of light and dark. One could equate that to equal parts of positive and negative energy. -3 + 3 = 0

...however, I cannot help but think that something had to manipulate things....maybe just an innate intelligence?

Anyway, very good information.


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Daniella,

I have not known about LHC. Thanks to Sim for giving me the gist of what it is. As far as letting the general public know what it is for. They might, but most likely not the whole extent. HAARP has been around for years, at least not that I know of, they still have not given really explanation for what it is used for.

Maybe there are things we are best not knowing. dunno laugh
Clever Old....laugh Suppose those two were created for some reason. laugh wave
Global warming ot just an earth weather cycle
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...7th October 1902 In Australia, the whole nation observes a 'day of humiliation' and prays for rain, as a terrible drought kills livestock and threatens crops; rain begins to appear on 10 September
Global Warming , Man made or a natural cycle ? and we end up getting pages about the non existence of a creator...laugh

A cell, the slightest, indiscernible piece or even the evolution of a cell, needs to have had a creator ?
In conclusion, you can write [and you write extremely well and eloquently] , all you like , but nobody can
actually PROVE there is a GOD [hence faith, belief]
or PROVE that GOD does NOT exist. Just a plain scientific fact.

Now the whole area of the Earth, the cycles of Ice Age and Climate Change, over the past so many years....
It seems that if in doubt don't, so I don't use plastic bottles as they end up in the sea and kill, strangle, the fish, I can't upload a utube to show you what is going on down there.
Deforestation, has had a huge impact on climate change, so in conclusion, WE HUMANS, certainly have not helped poor Mother Earth with our greed and carelessness and disrespect.
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