RE: President Obama promisses federal support for rebuilding hurricane destructed areas in America.

The Administration approvals of the economy has hit a new low......59% gave him a negatives on handling the economy. His handling of the deficit only 33% approve.....down by 6 points only a month ago.

Most Americans feel the economy is going south again. 89% of the country feels the economy is in bad shape.

The thing is that the White House has been making the economy is rosy picture..or getting better picture. Main street Americans know different.

They know were they were 3 year ago when this administration took office. Were they are today. They open the check book and see the balance and see the saving account and 401 accounts. Unlike this administration that is a money printing machine, they don't have that option. They have to live within their means.

They have tied their dwindling economic position in life, to this President's handling of the economy. To his debt levels and to his selling of T-Bills to the Chinese. To the DEM revaluing of their homes and the tight credit and lending policies that this government has forced on the banking industry.

They go to work..often 2 or more jobs....and are barely able to keep roof over head or gas in the car. If they have a small business, they watch the government force new environmental regulation on them, deny them a economic voice with Chamber of Commerce summit lock out, and the government's pressure to go green.

President Obama desire for progressive change...has created a economic nightmare in the country. He has single handed reduced the world's strongest economy. To now having the country close to defaulting on its loans for the first time in history.

President Wilson was the man...whose progressive views.....led the country into the great depression. As he did...he did not change his progressive views. He just stumbled on .....as the economy tanked. President Wilson was a two term President. Our grandfathers and mothers did not had the common sense not to give him two bites at the apple. He had done enough in 8 years to cause 15 years of economic failure thru the great depression.

We need to be as smarter than our Grand fathers and mothers.........

RE: President Obama promisses federal support for rebuilding hurricane destructed areas in America.

The late night giggle boys at ain't going to help you this time.

grin

RE: President Obama promisses federal support for rebuilding hurricane destructed areas in America.

LOL he goes to a 6th grade classroom with a teleprompter.....LOL.
doh

Remember 911?

GWB was in a elementary class room reading to the students from a book.

Gesh............why does he go to a classroom with a teleprompter?
They don't even let him speak out to a group of 6th graders.....they are afraid of what he might say........my my.

RE: President Obama promisses federal support for rebuilding hurricane destructed areas in America.

That is because there are none. And will not be. The only thing on TV the Casey Anthony case......bin Laden raid is old news.

Obama polls have again began to shrink....... he got a 10 point bump from the bin Laden raid. Real Clear politics has his May2 approval at 50% and 40% disapproving. Today.....is it is 50.5% and 44% today. So the gap is again closing. He lost 4 points in month. The month he got bin Laden.


November 2, 2012....is along ways in the future. But with a sluggish economy, a possible new war in Libya....(that might soon get European boots on the ground -the NATO Apache helo attack being the indication there)....the now with a growing number of REP canidates announcing to make a run. His inablity to get the rest of alQeada...and to now inablity protect the service troops in Iraq. 5 were killed yesterday....with those combat troops withdrawn.

I see headaches in future....migraine....even.

RE: who ordered the demolition of twin towers on tragic setember 11th. BUSH or BIN LADEN

Ever go to a bank and ask for home loan or for car loan and get denied? If you live in the real world.....you know the feeling
of being denied loan or some financial benefit. It doe snot make you feel good.....in fact it make you feel very angry.

Specially after you have spend say 12 years at the job. Have taken on new responsibilities. Seen a growth to your income. Man getting that big no, really could tick you off. Yes?

Well let say you were Iran. And since the Khomenie Islamic Revolution of 1979.....you have been going around the world seeking investors into your petro, energy, agi, and other projects that are going to make Iran the middle east country to look up to.

And you also have been getting a lot of NOs. And it seems alot of those NOs are coming from the finanical institutions located inthe World Trade Center of NYC. Those Jewish controlled institutions like Lehman Brothers Oppenhemier Funds and TD Waterhouse. Those Christian controlled institutions like Morgan Stanley, Bank of America and Sandler Oneil. Those far east banking institutions like Bank of Twiawan, Dai-Ichi Kagyo Trust, and Fuji Bank. The major international lenders like IMF, NYStock Exchange, and the Export-Import Bank had all been saying no to your request for project funding. It might just make you a little angry.

Those are all leasors in the World Trade complex and the Twin Trade Center. And many many like them.....that were very hesitant to lend or invest into this new Islamic Revolutionary Iran that was really on founded in 1979. They gave you a nice letter of denial when you ask for the 200m deal funding on a oil trade. Or on the 1b loan for developing a new oil field. But it was still denial and a no.

Iran prior to 911 had been finding it very difficult on the world stage of finance to find funding. Oil at that time was selling between $23 and $29 per barrel. Just a wee less than our present price of $100 per barrel. Iran had little oil revenue to float those big radical Islamic dreams on. It had sold much of field rights to western firm during the Iraq and Iran war. It has sold most of everything else as well to have funds for weapons and the Iran military to stave off Sadam and the Iraq army.

And here all those...Jews, Christians, far east money men
were still saying NO. Keeping Iran from being the Islamic Revolutionary State that Khomenie and Khatenei had determined
it to be. No, had vowed that it would be. It was a personal insult to these men that consider themselves to be noble and holy. How could they deny their Iran the money to grow and prosper? No deny them the money to grow and prosper on? They are
prophets of Mohammed the Prophet. Sharia Law justices with years and years of deciding criminal and civil cases of life and death. And here they were being told NO.

Maybe...just maybe....we have a motive for 911. For Iran's support of alQeada and just why the trade tower were selected as a target. And we need to remember the 1993 World Trade center attacker's Shiek Yousef threat letters to 3 NYC News Papers.....were I quote "demand of the US to pledge not to interfere with any Middle Easter countries internal affairs."

Is not denying credit and loans......interfering with with internal affairs of a country? I suggest to Khatenei, bin Laden, elZharakiri ......it is.

RE: President Obama promisses federal support for rebuilding hurricane destructed areas in America.

Sect Gates in his last month as head of DoD...is beginning to give opinion on the Obama administration. Yes, he did say that the bin Laden raid was one of good leadership and decision making by the
Obama administration.

He also just said this.....that the support troops in Iraq should be the first one's withdraw. Presently they are the last. Doing this leave them exposed to and encourages attacks.

Clearly Sect. Gates sees things differently than the White House. But that is why in America, one were each can his own opinion. And you not being called some "some movement that hates the guts of their own countrymen" by those around you.

We leave that kind of demeaning for for people that so called friends of America................LOL............

But in reading Newt Grinrich ...Valley Forge....Newt make s scene were a Rebell woman is asked to give her house to be Washington camp post. She has seen the poor condition of his army....on leave the house, she encounters General Washington and his staff....she proceeds to give them a piece of her mind.

In 1700 Europe, such a piece of mind would like get you to the gallows or the block. Layette was startled the Washington took it so calmly and respectfully. Here the Commander of the America forces was tasked by a mere woman.

Dude has no grasp of this concept. That freedom of speech give one the right to express it. And if done in a civil and non threatening manner...direct it anyone you please to.

To Dude, the REP are out to get Obama and his administration. They want the country back. His fear mongering wears thin. He use not freedom of speech, but freedom of rant and hatred. He takes his arguement so across the line with vile.....but this is the far left of today.

It has lost its class of the 60s and 70s anti-war movements. Today Dude can support the wars in Afghanistan and Libya ...in that they were there to protect the people of Libya and American.
What was GWB's invasion of Iraq if not another way to protect the people of Iraq from Sadam? What was Sadam doing the to the Kurds and Shia? Pretty much the same thing that Qdaffi is doing. Assad is doing. Moubarrak was doing. Ali was doing.

Yet GWB is the poster boy for anti liberal ranting. At least he did it with a Congressional approval of his military actions. He put it to the people's congress. Were as....President Obama did not.

RE: President Obama promisses federal support for rebuilding hurricane destructed areas in America.

Hey Dude a question......is going to take 12+ years to get Qdaffi?
The reason I can ask.....Kosovo was in 1999 and has been 12+ years bring Milosvoic and his henchmen to justice in Europe. With NATO running the Libyan show.....it seems like a very possible outcome for Qdaffi.

GWB had knocked Sadam Hussien out of power in 21 days. Though it did take a year to catch him. But you have to admit that is better than 12 years.

RE: President Obama promisses federal support for rebuilding hurricane destructed areas in America.

In doing a little more research, I think you are right. General Butterfield composed taps....and had his division bugler first play it at Harrison Landing. The Bugler, a Private Oliver Wilcox Norton later gave witness to this.

After the war, Norton gave a full accounting of the song composed to Gustav Kobbe a music critic and historian. Norton also said that TAP was being done by both Southern and Union units. Carried as far west as Chattanonga by Union divisions that had been deployed from Eastern threatre to the west. TAPS did not become the offical dirge for burial and end of day cermonies of teh US Military untill after the war.

So we have the romantic and fabricated version, and the real and honest version of TAPs posted in Dude Obama thread. Much like the politics of today. Anyone want to talk about John Edwards now? grin

RE: President Obama promisses federal support for rebuilding hurricane destructed areas in America.

Welcome to the Dude's Obama threads, Garland. You are going to fit right in.grin

RE: President Obama promisses federal support for rebuilding hurricane destructed areas in America.

laugh rolling on the floor laughing thumbs up

RE: Thank you Mr president Obama

Well that places him on the same side of the issue the Iranian Supreme Leader Khatenei....that just today came out to say.."Iran support all the middle east uprising, unless they not pro United States."

The only difference?

Obama made his comment to the American press. Khatenei made his to a group of Iranian shouting 'death to America'.doh

RE: President Obama promisses federal support for rebuilding hurricane destructed areas in America.

Here you go Dude.......on Iran's support of the Arab Spring. As I said in the past, this would better be called the Shia Spring.

Iranian Supreme Leader Khatenie just came out and said Iran supports ALL uprising unless they are pro-US. Clearly the
uprising were largely done by Shia....as mentioned in the article.

Khatenie goes so far to say....that Iran will not support any
uprising that is pro US or Isreali supported. Without mentioning the Syrian uprising. Like I said in the past, I think that this is a Sunni uprising.

Khatenie made the speech....to a croud of Iranians shouting 'death to America'. I guess they did not hear Obama's speech on toning down the rhetoric.))

Obama been supporting uprising to place in Iranian proxies...in Egypt, Tunasia, Yemen, Libya,.......while taking down supporting Arab Sunni governments for peace with Isreal, like Mubarak's.

Sweet...........



While in Iran....the leaders of the Green movement are still under house arrest...and 1000 are under trial for the civil unrest of the sham election. The radicals want the green leader hung for sedition and treason. Obama does not say very much as he wants to have negotiation with Amhmendinejad on Iranian nucs.

Still sweet........

While in Libya....the UK sent American Apache Helo into strike
Qdaffi forces in a port. Do you think that many in the middle east will see a difference between a American Apache and a UK
Apache? al-Jezzerra is going to to have a field day here.

Qdaffi has again refuse to leave the country. The Presidentt of SA was there again trying to get him set down. But the COL said nada....I am staying till something freezes over in Libya.


Sweeter yet..............

Finally in Pakistan and Yemen. With the now known mailing addressed of Omar, el Zharakiri and alAwalik. Obamas set up a Task Force to share the bin Laden compound intelligence with the Pakistani. Right now those three are shopping for new compounds to sleep in. If they don't have them already.

Meaning he just failed mission security 101....don't tell the bad guys, you are coming to their addresses. Because the Task Force Pakistani are mostly going to share everything with the Taliban and alQeada.

Think that I am wrong? Remember the recent attack on a Pakistani Navy base in Karchi? A Mumbia style attack? Know who the Pakistani arrested for planning it? A former Pakistani Navy Special Force operator. Yep.............

It only get so sweet.......then I cannot handle it anymore...it cause cavities.

RE: President Obama promisses federal support for rebuilding hurricane destructed areas in America.

My pleasure, Monecito.

The Story of TAPS was sent to me from my Church email network. If world thinks that God and our military are totally separated and secular institutions, they are sadly mistaken. My Church prays for the 40 service members that it has on duty. It had the VETs stand during the memorial day service and each gave his branch of service.

It the same for our police and firefighters. For the most part Christian Church in American supports those serving in the military or in local law positions.

As for low ammo. Yes I have heard the same. I was sourcing
ammo in a NATO caliber a while back and dealer said that the available quantity was low.

RE: President Obama promisses federal support for rebuilding hurricane destructed areas in America.

The Words to TARPS

Day is done.
Gone the Sun.
From the lakes,
From the hills,
From the Sky.
All is well...
Safely rest.
God is Nigh.

Fading Light.
Dims the sight.
And a Star.
Gems the Sky.
Gleaming bright.
From afar.
Drawing nigh.
Falls the night.

Thanks and praise.
For our days.
Neath the Sun.
Neath the Stars.
As we go....
this we know.
God is nigh.

When Dude says that the US is a secular country without a God, it like saying the ocean does not have water in it. God's relationship with our founding fathers and our fore fathers is
well documented in our founding documents and even the lyrics of songs such as TAPS.

From that context, Dude and liberals misconstrune the entire radical Islam conflict with America. Radical Muslims know that America adheres to the real religious freedoms. Granted in the Constitution. That in doing so, America is "the great threat" to the Sharia law that demands conformity and subservence from Muslims. Hence to Supreme Leader Khomenie...America had to become the 'Great Satan'. He had to discredit the faith American have in God and in their fellow Americans.

Every time Dude does his....REP are bad bad bad...he only endorses Khomenie's words. He sides with a radical Islamic leaders that would call you and me....evil. He would side with a country of Iran.....that post 911 was that was citing the Shia creed in secret Tehran services in an attempt to send those innocent Americans to dark place. Capt Elli son's had the answer for Dude and Iran Khatenie....God is nigh.

American might raid into bin Laden compound and kill him. But we did not conduct a religious service to send him to hell. He was given a Muslim ceremony and burial at sea. If bin Laden's Alla permits, today bin Laden is in Paradise. Were radical Muslims because their religious ideology (Shia Creed) and Sharia Law feel they have the ability to determine if someone is sent to hell. They can make this mortal decision of man's souls here on Earth.

Our Judeo Christian faith says something totally different. That only God has the ability, wisdom and the power to make that decision on a person's mortal soul. There in is the real difference and the conflict between Islam and the west. This is a struggle about life, death and mortality. Long term mortality of were ones soul ends up. Heaven or hell.

For Khomenie.....all Americans should go to hell. For Khatenie those 3005 American killed on 911.....should go to hell. For them both good Shia ...should go to Paradise. For bin laden ...good Sunni should go to Paradise. For Dude....bad REP should go to hell. For Dude ...good DEM should go to heaven.

Such child like thinking is what is causing all the religious and political conflicts in the world. Unlike the love of money, it is attitude of deceit and judgement. And it is just as deadly as the minnie ball that took Capt. Elli son.

RE: President Obama promisses federal support for rebuilding hurricane destructed areas in America.

TAPS---

If you have ever attended a US Military Funeral there is a point in the service were a single bugler plays TAPS. Few know the story of how Taps became this most solemn of all military dirges.

Here is the story.

It was 1862, near a small battle field of the Civil War called
Harrison Landing. Capt. Robert Elli of the Union forces had his troops entrench on a dark night facing the entrenched southern across the no man's land.

Out in the dark in the no man's land laid a wounded soldier, moaning and crying for help. Capt. Elli did not know if he was Union or Confederate. But decide to crawl to his assistance under the fire of the southern forces.

As he reached the fallen soldier, he began to drag him back to the Union lines. Once reaching the Union lines, they shined a lamp on the now dieing man. To realized he was a Confederate soldier.

But to Capt. Elli, the dieing soldier was much more. He was
his son. His son has been in the South studying music when the war broke out. Unknown to his father, he had enlisted in the Confederate army and now was here at Harrison Landing. Now laid dead at the feet of his father.

Heartbroken, Capt Elli requested that full military honors be given his son. Including a full band. That was denied because he was a Confederate soldier. Instead the Union command gave Capt. Elli one musician. He choose a bugler. The music for TAPS was in the pocket of Capt. Ellie son's uniform.

That is the story of TAPS.

When Dude so cleverly knocks GWB or conservative Americans that have taken a oath to defend the country. He knocks also the long honorable traditions of our military. GWB was a National Guard fighter pilot. His unit could have been deployed at the will of the Pentagon. So he took the risk of life to defend the country.

Were as the President that the Dude so cleverly supports had to learn how to salute after he took the oath of office. The present President though a good man and loyal American really does not have the knowledge or dedication to lead this countries military forces. And would seldom wear the American flag prior to the office. Which now seems to be seen ever where he is.

The events in the world today....say that in the future....only greater US military involvement is going to be needed. Sadly few of the REP canidates have any real military experience. Even this President has totally changed his opinions on the American military and it abilities.

While early in his administration, he could order the Air Force One for a low level fly over of the Statute of Liberty. Scaring 1/2 of New York City thinking that another 911 was occurring. While today he orders the elite Seal Team 6 to conduct the bin Laden raid. One can say that is learning. If so, it is learning on the Job. That for the Presidency is not a good thing.

Sure he can learn, but can he lead US Military Forces? Here one needs to ask why Admiral Mullens, head of Joint Chiefs was relieved of command 4 months early. Why CIA Director Penetta is going to become Sect of Defense? Why a long term Command officer in General Petreaus is being moved to the CIA?

If these command decisions seem like a amateur is in the role of
CiC......it shows that though he is learning. He is still low on the learning curve.

RE: President Obama promisses federal support for rebuilding hurricane destructed areas in America.

FEMA got the money it needed and it was the GOP Congress that gave it to them.

House Minority Leader John Boehner and Presdeint Obama are going to play a round of golf. During they will discuss the budger/debt issues.

Note the key word there is....discuss.

Discuss mean a conversation of parties that respect each as equals.

Which obviously you forgot a long time ago. You have attempted to minimized the worth and value of 56m Americans that call themselves REP, Tea Party and Conservative.

Does that not get a wee bit old?

You have such a twisted view of America....it is a surprise that the MOD....let you post this drivel.

RE: President Obama promisses federal support for rebuilding hurricane destructed areas in America.

The Obama Administration has a serious charge coming from the Chinese Military. The Chinese military is claiming that the US used the internet to set up the Arab Spring and the fall of the various Islamic countries in the Middle East and Africa.

"Of late, an internet tornado has swept the world....massively shocking and impacting the globe. Behind all this lies the shadow of America." A Quote from Ye Zheng and Zhao Baoxian both of the Chinese Academy of Military Sciences.

To put this into perspective. Google and the US government both accused hackers from China's Jinan (home of the China Military Technology Schools)city tapping into the g-mail accounts of various high ranking government officials.

Hillary Clinton said the hacking was a pretty sever case. So again this government loses vital and classified information in a internet security breach....like wikileaks. This time the US government officials were directly involved in the leak.

How so? They were down loading from the secure government sites to their personal g-mail accounts so they can work on files at home. Hence they made the material accessible to hacking.

But the net has been ramp with rumor that governments were behind the tweeting and twittering of the Arab Spring. The two Chinese scholars decided to point a finger of the rumor mill of the net. And focused it directly at the US.

They don't mention Iran or its 3b communication company owned by the Revolutionary Guard. As being a possible culprit. Surely Iran gained some power in the effected countries as the Muslim Brother hood knocked down the old regimes. But we know now that China is trafficking NKorean missile technology to Iran. So China has a reason not to mention Iran as a culprit.

Were did the US gain power in the Arab Spring? Or Isreal? The Gaza border has been opened by the Egyptians. Failing the Isreal blockade of Hamas. Think that the US wanted that? No

Or in Libya. The US tweeted its way to a stalemated war that could place US boots on the ground? This President that took 14 months to decide the Afghan surge and was dealing military systems to Qdaffi prior to the revolt? No.

So the Chinese military claim is only a deflection of the US charges that they hacked into the g-mail accounts. We know China hacked into Google earlier. Your truely provided evidence to that the government. This was a repeat in my opinion.

But US government heads should roll. They placed the material into a unsecure accounts of g-mail. Many were dealing with Chinese dissenters that now face the retribution of the Chinese government. Other had military plans and new systems designs that now China's Military can look on. This was a major compromise of the United States National Security and it occurred under the Obama administration.

So one would expect heads to roll and new security procedures to net using Government officials with clearance to occur.

RE: President Obama promisses federal support for rebuilding hurricane destructed areas in America.

I’ve seen more fiction writing on this thread than I could produce in my lifetime.

Ah come on John,

We know Dude's Obama thread is like a international conventional of fishermen. If they ain't showing trophy pics and mounts of the ones they caught. They are talking about the ones the broke the line and jumped over the boat.

The way I look at it.....Dude is the international good will ambassador for Obama. He may carry a oil lamp that is only half filled with a wick that barely touches the oil in a hurricane driven wind. So the flame is always dieing and needs to be lit.

But he has a right to his opinion, as totally ignorant and foolish it might be. Everyone gets a right to be foolish at one point and time in his life. Dude's consistency has always amazed me. Am totally impressed there.

They just had a amazing Willie Mays over the back catch in the majors. The kind of catch that happens once every 60 years. So who knows.....maybe even Dude will get disillusioned with Obama.
We turn around one day and he is the poster boy for young REP in Europe and is making plans to have Tea Party rallies in his
Coopenhaggen.

You never know. I admit the odds there are longer than the horse at the Kentucky Derby coming off broken leg. But this world is full of strange things, people, and places. That the Dude's Obama threads draws in a unique group of political pundits that have little ethics or honesty...in other words....anything goes to win a point or a position. Just shows the fair play and intregrity in politics has been totally abandoned. grin

RE: who do you think is the best special forces in the world

The one standing at the end of the day.grin

RE: President Obama promisses federal support for rebuilding hurricane destructed areas in America.

Planking again, Raphael?laugh

RE: President Obama promisses federal support for rebuilding hurricane destructed areas in America.

grin <------You know it is going to be one of those post, folks.

Just saw the net pics of the Taiwan girls planking.grin doh

You know...laying down face first on the road or sidewalk....on some public steps. Trying to touch only their nose and toes to the ground.

Am just trying to imagine a planking Taiwanese student here in the US in Central Florida.grin Beside the tire marks on their back, what else could go wrong?

They do that in little old St. Cloud, FL....the local bike patrol officer would be over to ask them if everything was OK? The canine officer would be pulling the dog off them. But only after the dog had a chance to stiff for drugs.

The planking students.....would find America a tough country to plank in I think. In the major cities we have enough planked homeless addicts....so they would hardly be noticed. In the rural areas, they can go and plank all that they want to. The cows don't care, they can eat around them. The grass will still grow.

Maybe the planking student would want some privacy to their plank. Head to some national forest or range land to lay a plank out. Which is a really good idea right up till the time that the Grizzlie or Cougar takes a interest in a planked meal. Skip the cooking, both can have it on simply the plank and raw.

But one has to give the girls from Tiawan high marks on a creative miss use of their bodies. If this trends take hold....as I am sure it will. I hope planking becomes the norm of Coopenhagen and Liberals around the globe. It will be easier to identify a liberal when they are planked. Many seem to be that way now.

"Oh Martha there goes one (a liberal) now." "Poor dear, he
does not have the strength to stand." "Now Martha don't be concerned, they have this funny way of seeing the world."
grin

Just think what planking can do at the White House. "Is the President in?" "Am sorry sir, he is planked right now.""Oh that explains a lot."grin

And the coming 2012 election can use planking well. Liberals can stand in polls....well not stand in the poll lines but plank in the poll lines. When it come their time to vote. The election official can place the ballot under their planked nose to read and mark. grin

This is going to be so much fun as planking take the world by storm................

RE: President Obama promisses federal support for rebuilding hurricane destructed areas in America.

Just to show Dude how it works here in the US.

The REP controlled Congress just passed a 1b funding bill that make avialable fund for the Tornado victims this year. To make his thread title come true. FEMA is getting a extra 1b for tornado relief spending.thumbs up

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Conrad...when it the Seal fell from the podium it did not bounce like a bad check. rolling on the floor laughing It hit on a edge and spun around like a top three or four times before splatting like a casino chip tossed on a carps table.rolling on the floor laughing

Speaking of economics....August 2nd. Remember that date. Unless they boost the debt ceiling.....that is when the US begins to default on its loans and notes. Are the Chinese going to be pissed.

Obama better bend over do a bow to John Boehner at this point. Bowing to the Suadi Prince ain't going to help him.rolling on the floor laughing

RE: President Obama promisses federal support for rebuilding hurricane destructed areas in America.

But here is somthing does effect our Federal Government and its counterterrorism programs.

Please note the part were they say "the White House and the State Department don't have a comment on Headley testimony."

Whose is Headley? Headley is the American alQeada that was in Pakistan and did the planning of the Mumbia India attack by the LET.

Headley admits he was managed by the LET and a shadowy Pakistani ISI figure by the name of Major Iqbal. Iqbal is a Pakistani ISI
agent...but does the administration track him down in Pakistan?
Demand his appearance in this Chicago court? Heck no. That would ruffle the apple cart of Pakistan and US relationship post bin Laden.

Headley was in part responsible for the deaths of 166 and including 28 foreigners in the Mumbia attack. Some had been tortured and disfigured. The LET was taking trophies....like ears and fingers of the victims. Jewlry you know.

Yet this administration after the bin Laden raid.....cannot ask Pakistan to turn over this Major Iqbal? Some of the foreigner killed were Americans. But they don't get justice from this administration. Iqbal is being tried in absentia.....with the other of the LET....but with the bin Laden raid....Pakistan should be giving them up.

Pakistan should be happy to give them up, if this Administration knew anything about extradiction and how to use the bin Laden raid effectively. Obama can make it so hot for the Pakistani with the intell from bin Laden raid....they are deep frying in their own juices. But is he? Nah.

So instead the White House has "no comment" to Headley's testimony that is keeping him from facing the death sentence, now a state witness against Rana. They don't send AG Holder to the trial to force him to give up every last bit of detail to save his neck. Holder must be busy playing golf.

See the difference between how the Headley case is being handled and the 911 v Iran case is being handled? One is serious business and the other is a white wash. Headley and his associate Rana.....both from Chicago....are getting off from giving up detailed information on Pakistan ISI involvement in the Mumbia attack. barf (I don't do that very often)

RE: President Obama promisses federal support for rebuilding hurricane destructed areas in America.

So why is the Obama administration doing a joint task force with the Pakistani?

RE: President Obama promisses federal support for rebuilding hurricane destructed areas in America.

Well here people in the US have enough evidence to Iran involvement in 911......to make civil legal cases against the Iran. Were are those court cases against the GWB administration
for all the evil doing of his 8 years?

Even the most liberal American President of all time, has not pressed any. Spain prosecutors withdraw their case against the GWB legal team. Wikileaks does a wash of his intelligence.

Seems to me that GWB has a future legacy coming in the history books...of fighting two wars and successfully defending the country against Islamic terrorism.

Time for you get the liberal legal dream team of all of Europe in a room.....make that a ball room of a major convention center.....because I know there are a bunch of them. And just litigate that devil out of good old GWB and his Bushneys.

Because your message of a evil GWB and REP...is getting weaker....and weaker......and weaker. Further and further and further in the review mirror of the American landscape.

RE: President Obama promisses federal support for rebuilding hurricane destructed areas in America.

A question here. How does a oil tanker sale to Iran help the Iranian nuclear programs? That is what the article says and what the Obama administration seemed to claim. Oil is oil and nuclear is nuclear.

But this is small potatos. Iran has been known to use fake companies and incorporated companies outside of Iran proper.
To work thru. So untill proven guilty, I would give the Isreali Offerdorf brothers a break here. They might not have known who they were dealing with. Bad business judgement on their part for not doing a better due diligence.

Beside when we begin to push the 100b in settlement claims....we will get the oil tanker anyways.grin

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Reagon got 52 American out of Iran and scared the Iranians to death, Dude. Something that Jimmy Carter could not and would not do.

Netanhyu was not in office when the Iran contra affair went down.

But if you are asking me if Netanhyu today would do a cooperative US and Isreali operation on Iran? The answer is yes.
Now think about that.

The question is would Obama do them with Isreal? There the answer is no. That Muslim appeasement thingee.

RE: President Obama promisses federal support for rebuilding hurricane destructed areas in America.

Clinton did not have two wars and homeland security department to set up. GWB did. Post 911 he had to restructure teh entire US intell and homeland security agencies. Had to go into Afghansitan on the great bin Laden hunt.

Clinton did not have any of that. Clinton had it easy.Compare Obama spending on near the same two wars and the same intell/homeland security apparatus as GBW's.

There is your comparisons.

RE: President Obama promisses federal support for rebuilding hurricane destructed areas in America.

If Obama shares intell with the Paksitani.....there is no more huge achievement against terrorism to be had.

Think about this for a moment.

Why would a Pakistani intell officer take a assignment on the Joint US/Pakistani task force? If he is straight and against Islamic terrorism, he just placed himself on the Taliban/alQeada hit list. Yes? So they kill him and get the chance to place a leaker in his place.

If he is trades intell with Taliba/alQeada...he wants to be on the Task force.....because it is a golden source of intell to sell.

We saw this in Vet Nam, Dude. The good ones would flee working with you. The bad ones wanted to.

Just one of the hard lessons learned.....but one the rookie Obama administration is going to relearn real soon.

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