RE: OIL IS CRASHING

I enjoyed the title of one article on the price fall....

Title was "Oil Prices Fall Among Economic Fears"

Saying to self......the guy writing this is either a solid Democrat or totally new to business reporting....and had seen the by-line of "economic fears" so manytimes...he just knew it had to be in the title or his editor would not place it.

RE: Can u share ur sweetest,happiest childhood memories?

Hitting back to back homeruns in a Little League game at age 11.

Niether was what you call a long hard hit ball that broke the lights above teh grandstands. Both landed in about the same place.....3 feet beyond the fence in right/center. But hey......a homer is a homer is a homer. Only ones I ever hit in Little League.

It was sweet!

RE: OBAMA for PRESIDENT and Triskaidekaphobia

Last joke on the baby pic, Indy.

Was taken just after you took him to a Obama rally and he met / kissed Obama?

Campers do a search "Barak Obama and Baby Photos" good for some giggles.

I am got some tasks to do.....so ending earlier for the night here......
have good ones, all. Even you, Dude.

RE: OBAMA for PRESIDENT and Triskaidekaphobia

LOL......don't you like the guy that is the in the tail of the platoon formation that never hears to the "To the Rear March Command" and stacks an entire columm of 12 up by taking the extra step to the front?

Funny, Jake never minds anyone looking at his tail.

RE: OBAMA for PRESIDENT and Triskaidekaphobia

Counting the tail....you got 5

RE: OBAMA for PRESIDENT and Triskaidekaphobia

Opps....No Jake at present...lost his disc of pics....Jake is my yellow lab.....7 years old....still a puppy.....likes to sleep on his back with all fours up in the air.......

RE: OBAMA for PRESIDENT and Triskaidekaphobia

I got just the pic ......Jake...coming right up

RE: OBAMA for PRESIDENT and Triskaidekaphobia

Indy, ......Mr. Sensitivity.....knows the way to a girl's heart. Babies and
dogs.....sure as shootin.......wins them everytime. I show them a pic of
a Drill's Round Brown..........a citrus tree ......a gator........they flee to the hills. And there is no hills in Florida......meaning they leave the State. LOL

RE: OBAMA for PRESIDENT and Triskaidekaphobia

Indy......guys "side bar" is called for.

De Vegu is not normally the best in face to face
relationships.....online......is even less wise.

Though when she learned you are Mr. Sensitivity......of CS......do I hear trumpets blowing in the back ground......I might be wrong here.

RE: OBAMA for PRESIDENT and Triskaidekaphobia

LOL...Indy what did you do to this poor kid? Tell him that he would have to pay the national debt when he was an adult?

RE: OBAMA for PRESIDENT and Triskaidekaphobia

Jesse is an old hand with hot mikes, Skybow. He had his own tv show for a while....they would hot mike him for that.....and when ever he
does interveiws inside a studio...which is often....he is hot miked.

He knows that once you are wired......then you are being recorded.
Shucks he likely had a 'red light' on the camera in front of him that is saying..."it is recording".

Maybe it was a spur of the moment thing. But Jesse Jackson is an old
political...he knows the tricks to getting air time....and to making issues. I think that he planned it. Jesse mind you, not Obama.

Just the delivery as well. Why whisper? LOL.....there were not anyone with in ear range to his back. Yet he does not look around to check.
Reminded me of two kids in elementary school...sitting side by side....planning to play hookie.

Going to love O'Reilly segment on body language on this one. :-)

RE: OBAMA for PRESIDENT and Triskaidekaphobia

I think that this was unpromted. Bernie Mac fell back into his club routine jokes material. Only it does not play with this croud of Barak
supporters who are 'politically correct'.

Where as with Jesse Jackson......that was premediated and planned
from the get go.....totally for some Barak Obama lime light gaining.

I find it interesting....Bernie Mac did not claim his 'freedom of speech' right in this little affair. Had Bernie Mac been invited to a GWB White House affair....done the same....and gotten criticized for it......I bet the next newsman to talk with him....is hearing.....'freedom of speech'.

RE: how can the u.s.a tell iran to stop building nuclear weapons when they've got enough nuclear weapons

Hang in there, John. It is cooling in Iraq. We are working the lob bomb problem now. I have some ideas here, sending up the flag pole soon.

North Korea just agreed to totally dismantle its reactor by Oct. So pressure and diplomancy can work. But they would have never said that without a US military presence and military options on the table
against them.

Iran is more complicated than North Korea. Thier nuclear facilities are
more in number, some are buried, Iran has put more dollar into them, and still has tacid support from Russia.....for their having the programs. But nothing will happen without a military presence and military options on the table with Iran, in my opinion.

You cannot imagine the pressure to be energy independant here in the US now with the price hitting $4 per gal. Environmentalists are losing support because thier positions. As they do, Democrat representatives...can come around to approving the offshore and anwar drilling programs.

Even better than opec at .20 per gallon. Is US produced at .20 per gallon.:-) We will all be driving Caddies with 427 in them again.:-)

Be safe, John.

RE: how can the u.s.a tell iran to stop building nuclear weapons when they've got enough nuclear weapons

I know John. Remember when the nuclear option was on the table for Afghanistan?

To go after the deep mountian base complexes with nucs? Well I shot the idea down with some papers. There were other ways to achieve the same without going nuclear.

We are trying to keep this conventional, John. You and Ship both know that. Also the moment we go nuclear, the world will be on us like flies to cow turds. The coming problem is Iran and its nuclear programs, not ours. We could have used them already......the world is not picking up on the restraint that has been shown here.

Washington doesnot want this to go WMD. But there is not much we can do about a Isreal that sees if differently. jmo

RE: OBAMA for PRESIDENT and Triskaidekaphobia

A Quote from Tony Snow. "Either Terrorism wins or Democracy wins."
Something to think about campers.

RE: how can the u.s.a tell iran to stop building nuclear weapons when they've got enough nuclear weapons

Then we stay and get the job done, Ship. Leave and we have no word in what happens there. Leave with a full withdrawal....they (being every anti American group and anti American country in the region) get the choice.

But you are 100% right...Iraq is not ours.

RE: how can the u.s.a tell iran to stop building nuclear weapons when they've got enough nuclear weapons

Trish......I don't know about you.....but I am not a collective pawn.
The work I do....I consider it valueable and worthwhile. You say that
GWB is playing people against eash other.....like telling people that WWIII was a near thing....and causing fear.....a few months ago?

Then last week the Isreali Air Force flies a little 120 plane sortie on a test run for Iran or elsewhere. And the world goes....oh my....they are
serious....they might just push the button and this WWIII is on.

The Isreali likely did not even give GWB 24 hours notice of the sortie, Trish. They just did it.

It is not a game, Trish. Real deal and real thing. People just don't want to face the fact that it is close at present. That was always one of the problem with the cold war, by the way. That the militaries would become complacent with such a long conflict of threats without the reality of combat.....that they would make misestimations.

Don't underestimate Pres. A or terrorists that are seeking nuc, Trish.
They will use them.

Trish...there are so many opinions, positions and words being expresses on this. I respect your position. And do really wish your professional opinion on Pres. A. I may come on hard....on this....because I have seen it from different perspective than yours.
But it does not mean I don't respect your position.

RE: how can the u.s.a tell iran to stop building nuclear weapons when they've got enough nuclear weapons

I totally agree Hugs.......I am had the chance to sleep on the things......or at least the practice models.......but they are a reality in our world today. Trish wants to say.....noone should use them because a lot of innocent people will get hurt and killed. I am saying that is exactly why Pres. A will use them.

A quote from bin Laden after 9/11. "America loves to live. We love to die."

Trish wants you to think that you can use normal psychology with a guy like binLaden or Pres. A. I am saying throw the book away....they don't play by your rules.

RE: how can the u.s.a tell iran to stop building nuclear weapons when they've got enough nuclear weapons

Let us move it some reality, Trish. Will your pschological judgement...keep Pres. A from pushing the button and sending the nuc your way?

You can anaylsis these guys all day long.....indeed I can make a case that only give them more time.....to make the systems that are going to kill a lot of people....nice, kind, loving people.....here and there....but that is not going to stop Pres. A. do you think?

RE: how can the u.s.a tell iran to stop building nuclear weapons when they've got enough nuclear weapons

I reread your post...trying to find where I did not address your question(s)......so asking one time.......what is it? I will not melt, Trish......you can tell me.

RE: how can the u.s.a tell iran to stop building nuclear weapons when they've got enough nuclear weapons

sorry typo Trish, Psychological....I have a got several things going on here.

But my question.....is do you feel safe with Pres. A.....having a nuc on a missile that can reach your backyard? In your psychological judgement......pretty threatening to you and your country?

RE: how can the u.s.a tell iran to stop building nuclear weapons when they've got enough nuclear weapons

Ship you are former mil.....and so you know what I write is straight stuff when it comes to mil....that it is best I can make it at least.

You also know that the US has more security, more layers of control,
more command structure over those nucs than any other country in the world. When they had misshipment of those nuclear triggers.......heads rolled all the way up to the Joint Chiefs level.

The US is most definitely trying to keep a regime that doesnot the leadership, the controls, the motives to keep their nucs from terrorist hands. This has nothing to do with the Iranian people. The Iranian people are not supplying the IEDs, Lob Bombs and other munitions into
Iraq, it is the Iranian gov't and the associated grougs of military and secret agencies that they have.

It will not be the Iranian people that the thread comes from.....but this same group of Iranian leadership....that you have to deal with.

RE: how can the u.s.a tell iran to stop building nuclear weapons when they've got enough nuclear weapons

Log time fan of the Golden Girls here. Cardsfans. We don't get many of thier reruns here anymore

RE: how can the u.s.a tell iran to stop building nuclear weapons when they've got enough nuclear weapons

LOL I have my definition of it....and I am sure Trish has hers.......
But I suspect she is referring to the the wizard of oz........character/

RE: how can the u.s.a tell iran to stop building nuclear weapons when they've got enough nuclear weapons

No this fine, Trish wants the debate.....I did not take it personally.....actually been called much worse.......

What questions, Trish do you feel I missed?.......

RE: how can the u.s.a tell iran to stop building nuclear weapons when they've got enough nuclear weapons

Fine Trish I conceed to your intellectual abilities and psuchological training.....

What are your cognitive psychological judgements of Pres. A and his mental stablity? Because that is the guy here you are dealing with, not the Iranian people.

RE: how can the u.s.a tell iran to stop building nuclear weapons when they've got enough nuclear weapons

Yes, I come up with them once in while. Sorry. But I have been in the white papering on them (Iran) for 6 years now....in my first paper on them....I wrote this.....

"Iran reminds me a lot of David Koresh and the Branch Davidian at Waco, TX. The major difference being, there were only 200 at Waco and in Iran there are some 60 million."

I know to you, Trish that sounds hard and cold. But it got the point of this being a disfunctional religious society as fast as I could take it there. Later, my advise was for the gov't to bring in a lot of the same expertise it would use with a cult, in handling Iran as it could.

That was 4-5 years ago that I wrote that. It has not gotten better.
Iran gov't to refuse the opposition groups to have place on the ballots
just about sealed the fate to what is going to come, I think. The opposition groups were a means to change the course....so this showdown....crisis...confrontation....whatever term you wish to call it.... is one that the Iranian gov't could have steered away from.

RE: how can the u.s.a tell iran to stop building nuclear weapons when they've got enough nuclear weapons

Driven, I think that you hit on the nail. These leaders of Iran have been asking 100s to martyr themselves for the Islamic revolution cause. Eventually given the means.....e.g. Nuclear weapons.....what is the difference between asking 1 to do so? and the 60 m Iranian tha live there?

They know prefectly well that a nuc attack on either the US, Europe or Isreal is just that. But they are not detered like the Russian were by the reality of it happening.

RE: how can the u.s.a tell iran to stop building nuclear weapons when they've got enough nuclear weapons

I know Shadow...Gilly just put the question out there for baiting us into a conversation on it......but still is a good conversation with the
situations in today world that we have. jmo

RE: how can the u.s.a tell iran to stop building nuclear weapons when they've got enough nuclear weapons

I have never been there. But have seen photo serise of Iran and its people.....it truely is one of the most goregous countries on the planet.
But the issue is not its bueaty and wealth....rather....what its threat is to the National Security of countries within the region, with Europe and the United States.

Do this. Rate the threat level (actual use of nuclear devices) of the Soviet Union to the west and US during the heigth of the Cold War on a 1 to 10. With 10 being the worst. Now do the same with a nuclear armed Iran.

I rate a cold war soviet union as a ..................................9
I rate a nuc armed Iran....................................................9.5

Sure Iran will not have the number of Nucs. But Iran has the will power and the motivation to use them. Where as Russia saw the
mutual assured destruction it was headed into. Iran considers such
destruction only part of this religious tribulation period.

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