I am speaking in the terms of not adopting a refrigerator shipping box after every rain storm...
more along the lines of subtracting the mentioned articles and items what would you have monthly to make ends meet.
a person I was talking to last night pays 850.00 a month and thats just rent... sadly they expect to lose their source of income shortly, thats what brought about this thread.
forget the monthly saving deposit, I'm referring to just paying your current bills and living costs. no restaurants, alcohol tobacco, new clothes/ shoes, bingo, club dues concerts or ballgames.
example meeting someone who has been separated for 2 or 3 years and they say the cost ids what prevents their divorce.
I've heard both sides of this argument, first one being when the economy was good they where happy... what if the economy changes. The other if their love could not withstand the economic crunch... how good / strong was the relationship.
Another point if someone has lost their job and is unable to find another currently. does that dissuade or influence your decision or judgment.
Does your current financial state influence your choices as to who to ask out or who to date.
the term "freedom" in itself is confusing to me... even the freedom of speech is under constraints, certain words/terms can not be said in public without the possibility of condemnation or worse punishment.
I have been taught/brainwashed throughout my life that I have freedom to do whatever I want....Only if I t is condon or accepted by society. the good thing about society is it changes it's collective opinion on what is acceptable or not constantly.
The closest I can get to having Freedom is when I am camping, and even that is only if its the rustic style of camping. but as for my daily life within society I'll never be or have independent freedom.
like the old adage says " It does no good to close the gate once the animals have left the yard" , or "you cannot put the toothpaste back in the tube." Sad, but its true.
if they have the where with all to build one more power to them.
It is those that choose to cut corners on obtaining them that I have strong feelings about.
much like someone buying the answer sheet to a test. build it yourself...and if you fail the first couple times maybe they'll realize its not worth the cost to have it.
I've learned that being educated is not proven by a sheep skin or certificate hanging on the wall. I'm sure there are many that know those with 4 or 6 year degrees that are "book smart" but have not a clue what being educated truly covers.
topics like this and most others here on the forums should not be considered as a who won, but more of who learned what about the other.
I've seen 2 of any same religion disagree on issues... what we all should try to do ( I try anyway),is use these threads to learn about the person and their conviction and knowledge and openness to other ideologies.
not the type of relationship i would want or seek, for short term or long.
however there are many relationships by all definition I would want no part of... but to sit in judgment, in as much as what I read about this one disgusts me, who has the right to decide how 2 educated individuals should conduct their relationship with one another.
and in truth before all the publicity I did not know anything about either one, even now i only know of the fight on the street between them both.
The law of the land says it was wrong... they are both young and I hate to be the one to post this but I think both will have further incidents like this one, only with different partners.
intervening in other countries problems I think should be left to the clergy types... withdraw all aid cash and otherwise and allow their own gods/leaders or citizens to sort them out in what ever fashion their God or wants deems fit.
as president I would concentrate more of my efforts on my own country.
ponder this question what if only one language and one color and one nationality existed for all of us here on earth.... would it make for a better place... would the quality and open honesty of humans be more prevalent ?
it is our differences how ever major or minute that draws us closer , the intrigue the curiosity that dwells in us all continues to thrive and grow.
to find depth of a persons soul is never easy or quickly known to experience deep true love is accepting that differences exist and for this elusive deep love to grow and multiple it is accepting those differences. jusyt as most gifts, we all need to see past the wrappings and ribbons and concentrate on what lies within.
how much income do you need to "just survive" from month to month?
With all the topics of personal nature on this forum,asking only what one would need for rent and basic necessities per month is too personal?