Women...convinced or have always?

Have some women been convinced to hate men or have they always?

Essentially, the question asks if there has been an increase in women hating men since the hardcore feminist movement began? As far as I know, the feminist movement began to gain a voice/recognition primarily in the late 1960's to early 1970's. It began to become hardcore when Hillary ran. Paraphrasing here....but she referenced something about not staying home baking cookies in the kitchen.

So....my question stands as stated in the beginning.

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I do not know, that is why I ask. dunno
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I believe there has been an increase in women who hate men. I also believe the reason for it is the feminist movement that has convinced more women that men are the cause of most their problems.
It's not any different then the increase in hate for white men in general by anyone who has an axe to grind and is looking for someone to blame.You name it, and it's a mans fault. sigh
Big...I bet you are not alone with those feelings.

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Hi Johnny wave

It's all the previous programming that has been embedded in our subconscious for millennia.

Some women pass it on to their children and grand children from generation to generation.
Some may do it consciously..while others are not even aware of it. But they do it.
As for the increase well..
Probably due to the fact that suddenly women are becoming aware (of this subconscious programming)..either consciously or subconsciously...and they are getting their power back..somehow.
I agree with what Big said above.


Here I see many women circles where men are not allowed. Why? You wonder..hmmm...
It all looks like some kind of sect to me..uh oh

I've even heard once one of the women saying that "men were unnecessary beings"!!!!doh

Strangely enough...that woman had 2 sons!!uh oh
All this complaining about feminism and how it has changed women's attitude towards men puzzles me. I get no sense of hostility in women that I come across on a day to day basis, and I don't sense it here, on CS. Where are all these hostile women? dunno
Hate is a very strong word and women's lib is partly to blame.
"have they always" .....
when women were born to be attracted men, wouldn't make sense they hate them as well, so no ..to hate was not a born given must.

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Johnny,

I’ve never had women hate me or dislike me, not that I can remember. They’ve mostly always been cool with me, and I try to be cool with them.

If they should hit on me/flirt, I just smile and say, “Aww-right!” dancing

If they should reject me, cuss me out, or have a “Johnny was here” tattoo. Then, I do this for a quick moment frustrated
Then move on.
cheers
What would really be empowering to women…is to reach out to men, help men, support men, encourage men, praise men, care for men and love men…but many think, that it is empowering to hold men back and deny men equality

Hate VS love…which emotion is stronger…in most western women? It should be love, but it’s not looking, that way

If an ideology, which rules your life, so much, turns your heart into stone and fuels your negative emotions, then Is that a healthy thing to believe in and your idea of being happy, fulfilled and content?
Hello Daniela,

Very nice to hear from you. That is an interesting theory that it has always been sort of ingrained....this hate for men....within some women. Hmmmm...I suppose. I have never gave that much thought. I would think that we all start out from innocence with infancy. But...as I recall your words more....you are saying it is being passed on from mother to daughter....subconsciously or consciously then and going on for many of years. What is this hate developed from I wonder?

You know Daniela...thanks to our local blogger here Jegas....I just discovered a very informative series of personal testimonials....many from experts in their fields...on YouTube...the TedX series. This one I found especially interesting...and maybe answering some questions about some women and perhaps their unease with some men.....certainly an eye opener. This is one of countless testimonials I have discovered about countless topics.

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Hello ExR,

I agree with much of what you say...if not all. Sure, men and women do get hurt in relationships. Hopefully in the end, that hurt can be converted to good....as in learning, moving forward, and enhancing.

This subject has been brought up because it seems to me (maybe I am just misjudging a bit here) but it seems to me that some women feel that it is revenge:thirty....and emotionally hurting men is the meal of the day.
dunno

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Hello Hoober,

How are you and welcome. Like I state in the my original post..."I do not know, thatis why I ask."

However, I have a question for you. Are you single? If so, let me know when you find your next long lasting, meaningful, loving relationship with a woman.

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Hello Bear. Yes...hate is a strong word. It is at the one end of an extreme negative emotion...but, I do wonder if women go there with men more often these days or not. You seem to think maybe.

Thank you for sharing...nice to hear from you.


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Hello Jegas,

First off, thank you for sharing your other blog...I forgot what it is called but you shared a link in there that I checked out. Through that link, I have found a series of very informative personal testimonials from professionals....very good stuff. So, thanks for that.

Now, to your initial response on this blog. What you have said is pretty much inline to what I have seen, heard, and experienced myself. Perhaps there is more to the story than what us men care to admit to ourselves. dunno But anyway, I agree with much of what you say.

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Itchy...yes. I think somewhere along the line it only makes sense that they were taught....those that hate anyway. Of course, there are some women out there with beautiful souls. thumbs up


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Hello UnF,

I do agree with you, there are women haters out there too. I wonder, do you see an increased outright show of deliberate disrespect to you from men? I forget what word you used...was it 'unhappy' with the roles they played. If so, I wonder who put them in those roles?

Just a thought that crossed my mind.


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Hello Robert. cheers Let's have a couple of those tonight? :)

You are right...and I am not making any big deal about anything....but we men should just move on if it is clearly shown that we are not good enough. thumbs up But Robert, sometimes women like to be challenging. Sometimes offering them a night out at an expensive restaurant does wonders. laugh

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laugh Jegs....what about tattooed, "Harold had my nips in his lips"?

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Jegas,

Your stories make Robert's sound like children's bed time stories. laugh conversing
sorry Riz....respect *for men.
I have a son who has a zillion mates who I class as all my sons..I have a fab rapport with all men because as far as I'm concerned many woman don't have the tit's to be straight up they prefer knifing people in the back & CS is a perfect example of two faced trogs..
Less happy than they were before although men aren’t the reason for the change. I believe that everybody having keys to everybody else’s houses is something women miss more than men do in the modern world. In the past the community itself was a safespace but man can better tolerate the broad and shallow networks we now live in. It’s just business.
I think it depends on various factors Johnny. Culture and influence are the biggest contributor.

I was raised in a household where a father is respected and admired, and my mom's teachings and influence on me about boys play a big role on how i view men. Though i have bad experience with some men, that doesn't make me hate all men in general.

Or Im just eternally optimistic, in which case, my point is moot.

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Hello ExR,

Thank you...I am happy you appreciated the blog. As with responses...first, if I am posting a blog and allowing responses, I should hope for responses and an attempt at a two-way dialect. Secondly, if somebody is willing to take their time and offer their genuine articulated thoughts on the matter, I feel I owe them that with my response to them.

If I am understanding you correctly Red, with your participation of those events, a lot of it was from the drive of feeling part of something....perhaps anyway....more so than what the event represented itself. dunno

You know, I have witness something similar...if I have interpreted what you said correctly. When going to auctions...I see a lot of people there. I think to myself, hmmm, there is going to be a lot of competitive bidding today. Usually, the larger the crowd, the more bidding there is. However, after going to 1000's of auctions over 20 years or so, I have discovered many auction goers just go because they like auctions...the atmosphere of them...they have no intention at all at bidding/winning anything.

Perhaps, the stimulation of emotions (auctions stimulate a lot of emotions with bidders) with these events, makes the participate feel more alive? At very minimum, it fights of the monotonousness nature of daily life with many?

dunno


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Hello Merc,

Thank you for sharing your experience....that is concerning with what you say. ...."many"

If women..or men for that matter...operate day to day life affairs with a bias of hate for the opposite gender, I would think pretty soon we will have a distancing from each other...or there will be widespread conflict between to two.

Because, as a rule of thumb it is said, you cannot communicate/associate with irrationality, without becoming irrational yourself. (not in all cases...but as a rule of thumb) The other way to communicate/associate with irrationality, is to distance yourself from it.

The way I see the path of the world right now....there is both conflict/distancing that is growing between genders.dunno


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I need to get my day going now....but I will be responding to all posts.

Thank you all...very good information. thumbs up
Wow... serious talk in here. I love women, but they are often crazier than me, and that’s not a good thing. scold rolling on the floor laughing
Bubba won't allow her to cook! ABSOLUTELY NOT! Now they have to hire someone half Chelsea's age to cook for them. And Bubba thinks she's just anther intern............
Hello Ms. Chelli,

I totally agree with remaining optimistic in life. :)

....not to mention, everything else you say too I agree with.

I know in the Philippines that divorce is difficult...which has couples remain together. Just the symbolism that creates to children as they grow speaks volumes. Now, to agree or disagree with the policy there about divorce is another blog in and of itself.

A lot of how we perceive the world as adults has blossomed from when we were children.

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BigJb,

"Most men would give everything they have for a kind, gentle, respectful, loving, hard working, trustworthy, modest and intelligent woman" I agree with that statement. Daniela has talked about how women have certain traits that have through the generations have been passed down to them...either consciously or sub-consciously. Well, I think the same can be said about men. A woman once told me...and I never realized this...but she said, it is inherent in men for them to want to take care of the woman in his life. That statement aligns with what you just mentioned there.

"Men...treated as second class people" That sort of mindset is supported when you watch media outlets and they specifically point out white men as being some sort of evil.

I am not too aware of how children are being treated these days. But I do know (well, have heard) that if you are going to change a society, start with the children.






dunno
JB, with the chair thing...that could be. conversing
Molly,

My blog tomorrow is about sunflowers. laugh


Just wondering Molly. :) Like I said with KN, I am just wondering if this hate is increasing or not among women toward men. I don't know....and I hope we are just all being manipulated or brainwashed....but it really seems like a lot of men who have responded on the blog here seems to think it might be. dunno That is kinda what I feel myself too. I guess Molly, you would need to be a man to see how women treat you. dunno Perhaps it is a self-fulfilling prophecy? dunno ...again, don't know....that is the purpose of this blog...maybe discover something.

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Jegs,.....have you ever heard of the Goldilocks theory? You want just the right amount of crazy you think you can handle. laugh tongue


....just joking
Ah Driver....


You know, I was just listening to a seminar from a Yale graduate and he referenced all his rich intelligent friends. He mentioned something about all of them having their second spouses....maybe money talks these days....and a lot of it. dunno


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