speaking of God...and what about forgiveness
I had a friend a few years back that told me he was seeing this woman. This woman was a Christian and cheated on her husband countless times, eventually divorced, she lied, she stole, she dated men after men after men, cheating on countless boyfriends. My friend asked her, aren't you a Christian? What do you think God will think of this? Her reply was, the Bible says he will forgive me.
Happy Friday/Saturday all
Thanks Jim.
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It was an on and off thing Itchy.
Some men cannot control their urges and will do anything and put up with anything...even when they know better. I since moved from that area of the world and only keep brief phone conversations with him. As far as I remember, they did finally break it off...
worklast..So, are you still seeing that woman? Err, ahem, I mean, is “your friend” still seeing that woman?
Desperate people do desperate things....the one wanting longer term was desperate (in my opinion). Otherwise, the writing was clearly on the wall that a long term relationship was likely not going to be. Using common sense, if you will, could have saved them a lot of emotional turmoil. But....sometimes life is just that way...live and learn too.
I agree with that. I feel that is where it becomes beneficial for an individual to have healthy boundaries, to not allow people with ill intent to effective them too deeply. After all, people have a right to live their lives the way they see fit...and that includes manipulating others...unfortunately. As long as they follow the laws of the land, they are entitled to their lives. It is important for people to be able to say no when appropriate and recognize when their beings are being compromised. Some people have a no-go zone, some boundaries breaches there are no recovery from...however...most minor breaches can be resolved with communication.
my opinion anyway.
"Using one's own good judgement may be to walk away from a toxic relationship for one's own preservation. That's not the same as judging that person's behaviour, nor the same as a church banning someone."
I agree with that Jac.
In the first sentence, using good judgement creates an action...walk away from toxic relationship.
In your last statement, church banning someone...another action.
In you statement about judging a person's behavior, you mention emotions are invoked.
I suppose what I have been saying is that judging and judgement are tied together.
Emotions (from judging for example) are also a source for motivation. Motivation is a source for making actionable decisions.
So, you are right about judgement and judging are different...but judgement is dependent on judging...I would suspect anyway. emotion to motivation to action
(judging) (result of emotion) (judgement)
I have read your comments a couple times to get a good understanding of everything you are saying, and I must say it is a very interesting perspective.; one, I have never heard of before. I understand the logic behind it and it does make sense. I would not come out and say that all religious people do not have a genuine understanding of what is right and wrong / practical and decent....but in the case of this blog story, the woman mentioned would fit in perfectly with your perspective.
Thank you so much for sharing that.
You're bad. You've done bad things to me. You should know how bad you are.
Or,
I'm okay, you're okay, but this isn't what I want.
The former is about blame, the latter is about taking responsibility.
...in line with what jac has been saying
One way would be more healthier stance than the other.
Thank you for that clarification. There is a fine line there and they can be confused...but, important to understand the distinction...I believe.
Now look back at your original blog.
The man is saying, "You're bad. You've done bad things to me. You should know how bad you are."
She replies with a glib, "The bible says god will forgive me."
Perhaps she is reflecting his own lack of personal responsibility in that statement. Perhaps she is more astute than you have given her credit for. Perhaps he has had a part to play in their mutual interaction.
"Perhaps she is reflecting his own lack of personal responsibility in that statement. Perhaps she is more astute than you have given her credit for. Perhaps he has had a part to play in their mutual interaction."
I should add, he is an Atheist. (if that means anything)
Yes, he does play a role in their mutual interaction. He could have just distanced himself from her when learning her story more in depth.
About the reflecting of his own lack of personal responsibility in that statement...I don't know...that is some pretty deep stuff there. lol
About she being more astute than I give credit for...in the main blog I just explained the situation as it was told to me.
Oh boy Jac, I am starting to go into the mist of confusion again here.
last time I was in Vegas, I stayed at a cheap thin walls hotel. The newlywed couple in the next room, all night they moaned and hollered, “Oh gawd, oh gawd! Oh yess, oh yess!” And other words like that.
The next morning when I saw them outside in the hallway, I told them, “Hallelujah to you both. Hallelujah!”
No way! I would never come between two people.
I gotta becarefulandnot ask you questions. ...otherwise, I am out of here.
Talk about give-in and take-in. I got a haircut the other day. The lady did the haircut from in front of me, instead of in back of me. She had big water balloons, and kept rubbing them in my face.
Whew! It was hard to breathe in the cleaveland of those things.
After, she told me, “Next time, ask for me. Don’t just let any lady give you trim, err a trim.”
I have a blog story about a Halloween Party date. Just haven’t had time to post it.
In my comedy story, I think there’s a guy like you in it.
And my story explains why women like puppies more than some guys.
Some ladies told me they saw you as a dreamy young Tom Selleck type.
Darn otto correkt
Here is to keeping it real...as Dave Chappelle would say....
Time for me to take off all my clothes, all of it, and get ready for sleeping.
Have a good night.
And don’t forget, beer for breakfast is better than orange juice. Less sugar.
Cool, huh?
Okay Robert...I am getting tired here too....was going to hit the hay as well.
Nice to have the chat/fun with you....and very nice to see you again too L.L. Thank you for stopping in.