Listening to Kevin Samuels....for the men...What is a low value woman...

S.I.G.N.

According to Kevin Samuels:

A low value woman is...

S = Shame (They will shame you).
I = Insult ( " " insult " ).
G = Guilt ( " " guilt " ).
N = Need to be right (they will always need to be right).


Which leads to these types of traits:

no accountability
no honesty
no apologies


What do you think men and women....do you agree with him? Is Kevin Samuels right about low value women?

Happy Friday all. wave

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@OP I do not believe for an instant that did not intend to use women instead of people. He is telling his audience this is a flaw of women only. He meant to teach this. Did he have a second sermon preaching the same about men? No. Would he ever have? No. Had I been in the audience I would have either walked out or confronted him.
FF,

I understand. So, what do you think about my questions? Do you think those qualities he mentions indicates a low value woman?

As far as me personally, my thoughts on this....

There are some great women out there.

However.

I have seen personally there are women out there with the same qualities KS indicates as a low value woman.

And for me personally, life is not fun with a woman with those low value traits.

There are both ignorant men and women out there that do not understand what is valuable in a relationship. And for you FF, if you have the unfortunate experience of being with a woman with those low value traits because you got blinded by her beauty....I feel sorry for you.

Thus....educating people to the traits of low value, I think...is very important.

I think many people do not understand this as well.

As far as who KS is as a person, I do not know him well enough to make a determination on that. Some of the things he says, I feel are a bit harsh as well. But, I do not know if that is just the harshness of reality...or where exactly it is coming from. However, I will say, much of his message seems to be on point....and valuable information to those out there who do not understand the dynamics of relationships.

wave
FF...


Do you think people these days understand the dynamics of relationships?
...and to add a bit more complexity to the situation....

Human beings are social creatures....they want to be around other humans...and form relationships.


So, if they want to be part of a relationship, I would think they need to understand the dynamics of a relationship.

If they want to remain single, then fine....do as you wish. But if you want to be in a relationship, you need to share yourself...it is not "your way or the highway"...it is give and take and an element of selflessness has to come into play. It has to.
Jac,

Thank you for your psychological breakdown of his presentation. Sincerely, very informative.

thumbs up

Does that display his knowledge though? He understands human nature of a deeper level than most? It could be...it could also point out that he is willing to go to deep levels for manipulation. It could be that as well.

However, does it discount the information that he is sharing about relationship dynamics?

Remember, he is teaching us about relationships.

He is not teaching us on how to be single.


wave
FF,

I agree that people have to be careful with whom they associate and align themselves with. Not all are terrible people and not all are great people. But there are some out there worth aligning yourself with, only time tells who they are.

wave
Don't get me wrong Jac, I am not a Bible expert. But I do not ever recall hearing where they teach to dislike women in it.

dunno
I think Jac....if you cannot point out where they teach disliking women in the Bible, I think you have something else already determined in your mind. ...and my conversing with you in all for nothing. You think you have a point to prove (where men are being taught to dislike women....or...men just dislike women)...and you think that is what I am trying to share....

Which, to be outright honest with you....is NOT what I am doing here.

You are having me trying to defend a stance or a point of view that I am sharing....and it is a stance or a point of view I am not even trying to share.

I do not dislike women Jac...and I honestly thing KS does not dislike women.

...end of story.
Jac,

What Sea has shared is what I recall the Bible teaching about women.

Thanks Sea...and I agree with you. We are facing something very intelligent today...and in my opinion...and it is not a good thing.


wave wave
Jac,

I do appreciate your insight and thank you for sharing it.

We got a little off topic here and that is fine. This blog was intended to get the opinion on what KS identifies as a low value woman.

I thought it was worth while to share to open they eyes to those wishing to become involved in a relationship, and possible traits to be aware of.

Of course, this does not discount the traits of a low value man. I think someone shared a video on that as well...and I think that is equally important to be aware of too.

However, with men being primarily visual creatures....they should be aware that that shallowness could indeed get them in trouble with the wrong woman, and to be mindful of other traits as well.

Thanks again Jac.

wave
A low value person is one who stands up and spouts such 'ideas' purporting to being a teacher.
This could as well have been said as no values.
Either gender that initiates platonic relations with those methods will not receive the time or desire and be lacking an inner circle of support and comfort that is healthy and based on mutual respect.
This foundation has potential for intimacy and trust.


I would not have imagined that this was not taught early in life.

Faith,family and friends have been under attack socially and by the institutions we used trust.It is a s.i.g.n.
hug I'm actually glad you broached this subject on CS.

The comments were very telling and you are handling it with aplomb.
(respectfully too)
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I hope you got something special yesterday in your St.Nicks stocking.


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So Jac...and I think FF would fit into this same question as well...


So you guys/gals don't think humans should have any sort of traits/characteristics that you should or should not value in another human being.

Women have things they value in a man, equally...now as we get educated....men have things value in a woman. Is that so wrong? Two both of you I ask.
Another question for you two....are you two even looking for a relationship?
N = Need to be right (they will always need to be right).


I've noticed a few men on the blogs that show the same trait. That includes having the final word in a 'debate'.laugh

beer
cheers
Why is my private life relevant? dunno
It has some relevancee, cos when backk in t day when we all got along here, maybe ekspt you we looced for love so it was kinda laik cheers the NY series athmosfhere here and if anybody spoke like you, u kno hars, it would be consider a joke... like 'u must B joking right...' But u ain't.

Capisjhh?
Great blog Johnny, most entertaining blog i've read into for some time.. thumbs up
Thank you Butcher. I am happy you are enjoying the entertainment value of it.

It is almost meant to be informative as well.

wave
@op sticking to the insistence on these being female 'attributes' does you no credit at all. Suppose your workplace manager shows all the 'SIGN's what would you say or do? If male what? If female what? Would anything differ with gender? I see some here like this thread, but personally I find it egregious. The original, now deceased, speaker I would rather despise for such words.
FF,

I am not trying to date men.
Jac,

You still never answered the question.
Jac....your comment to me...

"You don't have the right to declare that some women are of a low value as human beings just because you don't like them, or the way they behave."
Jac,

Now, what about that answer to my question?
That you consider an answer? There you go insisting @jac answer you, but you give a flip answer, where she replies in detail. Of course the @op is entitled to fly the double standard.
FF,

You and Jac are the ones trying to turn this blog into something else.

Okay FF...what about you then. Would you allow anyone (including women) into your home to live with?
Okay you 2....let me answer that for you.


The answer is...

Of course not.
@op still no answer but instead parries with a question. Answer: I have many times. Except for my son, all women as it happens, cohabiting or sharing, because they are the preferred.
Now, I need to ask you 2.....

Why not?
Do you see where I am going here or do I need to break it down even further for you 2?
FF,

If I were interested in dating you, we could converse with one another for a period of time where you could determine my SIGN for yourself. However, I am not trying to date a man.

Sorry.
You don't need to know about my private life to make your point.
Jac,

I figured I would have gotten an apology from you for tell me I don't like women. Actually Jac, I am lying. I knew you wouldn't give an apology.


Regarding you answer the question, you really do not have to. Everyone knows the answer.
Quote me where I said you don't like women.


Say it, then.

Lead like a man.
Jac,

This conversation between you and I has gone far enough. Until the next one.

gnite
That was nicely put, and it could be what Johnny in reality is after.
Just sayn'.
It’s pretty clear that the lack of understanding in the Bible and Jesus’s message is being overridden with the sin of ‘Modernism’.

James 2:8-9 – Treat each other equally.

If you really fulfill the royal law according to the Scripture, “You shall love your neighbor as yourself,” you are doing well. But if you show partiality, you are committing sin and are convicted by the law as transgressors.

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Loving thy neighbor as thyself as the 11rh Commandment states is a lifelong journey that we should all try every day to achieve. When we break a conversation down to who is right and who is wrong we miss the essence of Gods word, and that is Love.
Thank you all for your comments. I feel that the message shared in the original post has been heard and those of you who have heard it can make your own determination as to its merits.

For me, the message has opened my eyes a bit to be more careful in the vetting process when allowing somebody to enter your life on a personal level.

Sea, I do agree about the message of love in the Bible. thumbs up Just because I decline to have somebody become a member of my personal life for traits they have that I do not value, does not mean I do not love them as a human being. The word toxic does not exist for nothing.

I hope others have found this blog of interest and of use.

Happy Friday once again all.

wave
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