What does the end of all this look like?

There are some who do not know how things end.

The current dynamics that society has with the incorporation of feminism, where the traditional nuclear family is eroding....how does this social dynamic eventually end. We have never seen this type of society...ever...in human history. Some of the most brilliant minds don't even have a clue on how this ends...I have not even heard any speculation.

What do you think?

How does it end?

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This is a real concern among men...and perhaps should be among women as well. dunno I was just at a party over the weekend and a 20 year old man brought up the exact question to me. In addition, I was listening to a podcaster just last night, and the brilliant guest mention he didn't know how things would work out either.
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I only work at Amazon and definitely am NOT an
Amazonian woman.
laugh Patti.....wine
Me thinks that we should be more concerned about the end of humanity as a whole dunno
Fair enough D4. If we do not pull together as a whole and continue to let a few lead us by the leash, it might be an issue as a whole.


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You will find this topic under discussion almost every day @ Enterthestars.
This could be One End

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Happy New Year!! (in a few days) cheers
Interesting AB...I will have to check that out.
And my blogs tend to be about DOMINION.

frustrated Gorbachev, tear down this wall...
Work really hard. Women still marry men who make more money than they do, it's just that many men don't.

Either that or marry a woman less attractive than yourself.

And always remember that neither monogamy nor a wedding are what a man wants. This is just controlling access to what he does want, to get him to behave. These are what he thinks he wants because he doesn't have any options
What is the theory?
That women want only success and don't giva f about love no more,
or is the problem that they "don't need us anymore" now that they earn their own money?
Or all of the above?

If it has beacome so bad that we the losers at the bottom of the hierarchy don't get a chance nomore
here in the west, then look elsewhere Johnny. That is what I'm doing.
And they want me in anyplace outside of the $-zone. I'm populare in 75% of the world.

Next you either move there or import one. End of that discussion.
Hello AB,

Dominion is being lost in my opinion.

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Grand,

I agree...look elsewhere. I almost got married to a woman from the Philippines. She was a wonderful woman.

Why didn't I end up completing that journey.

There were a couple of things.

But a large one is, it cost a lot of money. One needs to be fairly wealthy to do something like this. In addition, you think the laws don't favor men locally...check out the laws once if a marriage falls apart if you get married to somebody from another country. At least here in the U.S., if you get divorced, you are responsible for her income for the next 10 years.

Again...if you ask me, laws favor the elite.

dunno
A sidenote to the sidenote:

A woman might read the sidenote and say...well, a man just has to keep his woman feeling secure, feeling like a woman, feeling happy, and feeling safe.

Fair enough.

A man should do all those things for a woman. Especially when that is what a traditional relationship asks for.

2 things though....

Men are human beings and have emotions...they have good days and bad days like women do. I am not aware of a man who can fulfill those requirements every single day of his life. They might be able to do it 95% of the time...but I doubt all of the time.

Second thing, the days of traditional relationships are eroding. Whereas a man....and I say, a man...meaning 1 man...has a very tough job satisfying a modern woman's list of demands. I ask you the read some of these women's profiles on dating sites. Well, I have not read them lately, but about a year ago I would read them. Their list of what they wanted in a man was absolutely unrealistic. It was not only wanted they wanted...however, the way they worded it....they were demanding it. It is one thing to ask for things (and seemingly appreciate those things)...but it is another thing to demand those things (and seemingly having no appreciation for those demands). It was expected.
Another side note:


Do you know how feminism exist?

Life has become fairly easy in modern days in 1st world countries.

The second life becomes tougher, feminism disappears.

That is why 3rd world countries has women still worth marrying.
Grand, as far as any women in my life.

I have many women I know and I am great friends with.

There is a difference between executing judgment among others.

and

Being aware of human nature and social constructs.

There was just a woman the other night who told me she was thinking about divorcing her husband...and has told me many times I am her favorite. I just had another woman, I just met last night, who we sat down and she was telling me all about her life. These are highly attractive ladies.

Grand....

I don't judge people. That is not my role...I was raised to believe God does that. I am just a human being.

However, I am alive and I have to navigate life in a way that does not cause me or anyone else any harm. How do you do that? Understanding and knowledge. Not hate.

Grand, you can be knowledgeable and not a hateful person. Don't become hate.
Grand...

Let us not confuse what I am saying with ALL of one gender....I am speaking in generalizations.

Not all women.
and
Not all men.

When I am talking.

There are some beautiful people out there.
Here might be a shocker Grand...

I don't blame women for feminism.

It is not their fault.

They have been sold a dream.

It is not their fault....women will be women.
Grand,

I agree...men are not perfect either.
thumbs up Grand about being optimistic.

Absolutely....

I would even add loving to that.


However, it is important in my opinion, to understand the world we are a part of. It is important for others to understand it too. I don't want women and men to die alone...and bitter. What a way to tarnish the soul.
Grand...I am happy to hear that you respect marriage. To me, all men should respect a married woman and all women should respect a married man. One can argue, that set the direction to where we are at today.
CC,

Marriage is high risk for men right now.

As soon as we all (men and women) understand the dynamics of our current social structure....the sooner the potential for a correction to come to light.

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It will take some time though.

In my opinion, women at one time, never trusted what was coming from a man's mouth. However, men have been saying things now for years....and I think women are starting to see it for themselves...that what men have been saying is true. But...it is just starting to be seen. Because, women's actual life situations that they are now in....does not lie to them...they can see it first hand for themselves the results of their decisions.
@Johnny.
Save yourself and let the world go to hades in a hand basket.
I'm glad to hear thise positive words from you (finally). Phuuu a sigh of releaf!
Patti was right, you'll be fine!

Be aware that there is much confusion these days.
Many a reason for that, but one is that some human beings... play political game on it.
It's gonna take an asteroid implosion with mass extinction to end all this Johnny, I'll tell ya!help
Thank you Grand for your contributions.

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Hello Loh,

I am hoping that human beings are more intelligent than that.

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wave Cakes...

Have a happy and safe new year.

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Hello Friend,

You bring up an interesting point, about the new phenomenon of podcasters. This is also something new to humankind...that we know of anyway.

In a way, it is a new source of information that is available to the masses. One can even speculate it is information that just about anyone can share with others...rather than the old methodology of it being the priveledged being able to share it though books, radio, newspapers, and tv.

Will it prove to be beneficial to us as a society...or...is it better that only a select few are allowed to provide us with what they deem the best?

This is new to us humans....how do we handle the truth?

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Totally agree CC...there is tones of do it yourself knowledge out there on these avenues of information.


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CC...I was not aware of Tate being involved in human traffic activity.

It is amazing he is still free and not arrested by now.
Hello Nin,

Thank you for your comments. I have read them and I want to give them some thought. Not to mention, it is a bit late here.

I can say for sure, they are not off topic.

I will give some further consideration to them and give a fuller response.

For now, thank you.

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Well Grand your best bet is to keep your engineering know how up to date rather than trying to figure out the motives of women. The question is do we want 2 lanes or 4? professor dunno
I think the good old fashoind two lans,
one in each direction was more charming.
beer
But hay, everything went slower too.
We used 2h15 to the hut in my dads old DS21
when today we're there in 55min.

I'd take that beer with you anyday though and we could figre it all out,,
and bring some quality ghanja, havn't had a puff in years popcorn balloons
Nin,

With your first comment, I agree with everything you say.

But, I would like to add....and thankfully in my opinion....meaningful relationships do exist. There is true love between people. There are ups and downs in relationships. Whether or not the relationship survives, depends on each individual in that relationship and their ways of coping with these lulls.

It is these lulls in relationships is primarily what I am focused on.

Nobody has all the answers when it comes to relationships. As young adults, mostly what we bring to the table in a relationship is what we have learned from our parents. It is up to us as adults to learn the rest. Like you mentioned, we only learn about ourselves through others...in other words, the feedback they give us. Each relationship is unique. That is why it is difficult to offer a friend relationship advice if they are going through a lull...because, what might not be acceptable to us...might be perfectly acceptable in your friend's relationship.

But, when we become involved in a relationship, we need to understand the other person...and we also need to learn their boundaries. And of course, the other person needs to understand us and learn our boundaries. It is a two way street. Once we have shared time together, we begin to understand each other and learn each other's boundaries.

However, the problem is this. Men are fairly simple creatures, and for women to understand us...it is fairly simple. Whereas, women are complicated to men, and to fully understand them is not so easy for us men. Thus, that is why women are asking for a divorce about 80% of the time.

This goes to you too Grand...that is why I do these blogs. I am not only trying to better understand women for myself, but also letting people know what I have found out....for three-fold. The first, is to help other men and women better understand women. Secondly, for myself to better understand women through the feedback I get from others and to better recognize any faults or mistakes where I might be misunderstanding. And lastly, ....the numbers don't lie. Women are initiating divorce about 80% of the time, does that not say something? Are we as men too arrogant to try and learn something about why that is? Perhaps as we become more knowing of women, we can become better men and bring that number down???

Perhaps I say....but the bottom line is, I don't think it is a bad idea for both men and women to better understand themselves and the opposite gender.

Happy Friday you two.

wave wave
What I think is.....
before the worst happens roll eyes
maybe enjoy the good things in the here and now, that are ,is....

One doesn't have to have a brilliant mind either, to know why wink

All the best for 2023 Johny wine
Grand,

You might have it all figured out. Maybe us men should just stay the course and not even give anything any new consideration....even when society and the dynamics between women and men have changed....and seemingly to be on a course of drastically changing. Maybe us men should not change at all and stay in our traditional ways, without learning and potentially preparing for anything. I do agree, men should be men. I do agree, men should try and maintain their traditional roles. But, who is that working Grand?

Us being older, we are lucky. Why is that? Because we grew up in traditional family structures...we have seen it and we know it. However, that still did not protect us from these modern changes. Women became convinced they were missing out (80% initiate divorce). But in time, these women who grew up in the same traditional structure that we did, most likely will recognize they miss some of the relationship components they once had. And, the older generation of both men and women will be lucky for that.

This up and coming generation, will not have that luxury.

But Grand, if you think that path we are on is completely good and fine, God I hope it is, but that is fine...nobody is trying to stop you from going down your path in life. I wish you the best on that path and sincerely hope you find what you are looking for and discover true peace and happiness.

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Dang it, he just left.

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