Pro-Gun/Anti-Gun? (673)
the right to bear arms shall not be infringed! Then why is there a fedral law enforcment called atf
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jvaski: I think it's more of a Macho mentality that makes some boast that they have weapons - therefore they have power over others.
I may have weapons to, but I never go around telling everyone - it's nobody's business.
Hunting is another issue. Susistance living ?? Why ?
Target practice is fun , pure dang fun .
Yea, there are many reasons to have em , just don't flaunt em...JMO
I may have weapons to, but I never go around telling everyone - it's nobody's business.
Hunting is another issue. Susistance living ?? Why ?
Target practice is fun , pure dang fun .
Yea, there are many reasons to have em , just don't flaunt em...JMO
I actually don't have any, but I have in the past, and some of the places I've lived, it's been a good idea.
If you've never lived in the middle of BFnowhere and regularly have bears roaming around, you wouldn't understand. That and for many here this far north, and further, subsistance living is a way of life. Often there is no grocery store or meatmarket to buy a steak or hamburger at, you do it yourself.
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damo9: velvetuG this is damo9 what i left in my post was not confusing or was it a load off rubish australians are not alowed to arm them selves or bare arms or prottect ther familys you can thank john howardif any one is cought with a gun on them in ther car or in ther home they can be in trouble security guards can only have a gun if they are doing armored guard jobs or working in a bank if you are a bouncer you cant have a fire arm criminals are not alowed to have guns but they can buy them on the black market
one of my friends was killed he was doing his job the guy he asked to leave came back with his mates and they killed him
my old man lost all his guns they were suppose to be passed on to me
what happend in tasmania was the out come to the tuffer laws we have in australia
our constitution does not alow us to arm our selves
when new security guards are trained they are told by the trainers we do not have the same rights as the police do or prottective service officers in canberra
i dont know why you picked at what i had said in this topic i am only a new member to this site i thought i might as wel add something to this topic since its close to my heart i have been to the philippines three times the security guards in the philippines are armed they have hand guns and shot guns
i know if the australian public were to see what i see when over seas visiting my filipina friends they would freak out
the guards dont have rubber bullets ther guns are loaded with real bullets when i aplied for my hunting licence the cops did a tharow check on me
its the ssme when i sat for my fire arms licence it cost me $2,000
so dont say we in au have the right to arm our selves
the instructers that trained me drilled us
i have only just gotten my security licence only in the philippines and in america are you allowed to have a fire arm the philippines constitution is the seme as americas constitution
my neighbour got into trouble he lost his guns he had a criminal record
so you show me in our constitution were australian citizens are alowed to say walk with a hand gun on them like i have seen in the philippines
we cant even have knifes on us sorry but i would ask in the near futer if you have something to say say it dont pick at what i have left in this topic
i am not hear to debate i joined connecting singles for other reasons
damo9
one of my friends was killed he was doing his job the guy he asked to leave came back with his mates and they killed him
my old man lost all his guns they were suppose to be passed on to me
what happend in tasmania was the out come to the tuffer laws we have in australia
our constitution does not alow us to arm our selves
when new security guards are trained they are told by the trainers we do not have the same rights as the police do or prottective service officers in canberra
i dont know why you picked at what i had said in this topic i am only a new member to this site i thought i might as wel add something to this topic since its close to my heart i have been to the philippines three times the security guards in the philippines are armed they have hand guns and shot guns
i know if the australian public were to see what i see when over seas visiting my filipina friends they would freak out
the guards dont have rubber bullets ther guns are loaded with real bullets when i aplied for my hunting licence the cops did a tharow check on me
its the ssme when i sat for my fire arms licence it cost me $2,000
so dont say we in au have the right to arm our selves
the instructers that trained me drilled us
i have only just gotten my security licence only in the philippines and in america are you allowed to have a fire arm the philippines constitution is the seme as americas constitution
my neighbour got into trouble he lost his guns he had a criminal record
so you show me in our constitution were australian citizens are alowed to say walk with a hand gun on them like i have seen in the philippines
we cant even have knifes on us sorry but i would ask in the near futer if you have something to say say it dont pick at what i have left in this topic
i am not hear to debate i joined connecting singles for other reasons
damo9
damo.........we are allowed to have guns, we are allowed to defend ourselves, yes even with a gun.....
remeMber A shopkeeper who shot dead an intruder a few years ago yes he got charged, but he didnt get convicted.....
what thas yugoslavia got to do with it???? i know that where you are from, and i am appalled at what happened there.....dont get me wrong...but i do not see what it has anything to do with this debate.....
AND i feel very sorry and saddened for your dear friend, who lost his life
my compassion for what you have been through and my commitment to our amnesty is 2 completelY seperate issues.......
i am happy with our amnesty, and at the end of the day, IT HAS PROVEN TO HAVE WORKED!!!
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damo9: velvetuG this is damo9 what i left in my post was not confusing or was it a load off rubish australians are not alowed to arm them selves or bare arms or prottect ther familys you can thank john howardif any one is cought with a gun on them in ther car or in ther home they can be in trouble security guards can only have a gun if they are doing armored guard jobs or working in a bank if you are a bouncer you cant have a fire arm criminals are not alowed to have guns but they can buy them on the black market
one of my friends was killed he was doing his job the guy he asked to leave came back with his mates and they killed him
my old man lost all his guns they were suppose to be passed on to me
what happend in tasmania was the out come to the tuffer laws we have in australia
our constitution does not alow us to arm our selves
when new security guards are trained they are told by the trainers we do not have the same rights as the police do or prottective service officers in canberra
i dont know why you picked at what i had said in this topic i am only a new member to this site i thought i might as wel add something to this topic since its close to my heart i have been to the philippines three times the security guards in the philippines are armed they have hand guns and shot guns
i know if the australian public were to see what i see when over seas visiting my filipina friends they would freak out
the guards dont have rubber bullets ther guns are loaded with real bullets when i aplied for my hunting licence the cops did a tharow check on me
its the ssme when i sat for my fire arms licence it cost me $2,000
so dont say we in au have the right to arm our selves
the instructers that trained me drilled us
i have only just gotten my security licence only in the philippines and in america are you allowed to have a fire arm the philippines constitution is the seme as americas constitution
my neighbour got into trouble he lost his guns he had a criminal record
so you show me in our constitution were australian citizens are alowed to say walk with a hand gun on them like i have seen in the philippines
we cant even have knifes on us sorry but i would ask in the near futer if you have something to say say it dont pick at what i have left in this topic
i am not hear to debate i joined connecting singles for other reasons
damo9
one of my friends was killed he was doing his job the guy he asked to leave came back with his mates and they killed him
my old man lost all his guns they were suppose to be passed on to me
what happend in tasmania was the out come to the tuffer laws we have in australia
our constitution does not alow us to arm our selves
when new security guards are trained they are told by the trainers we do not have the same rights as the police do or prottective service officers in canberra
i dont know why you picked at what i had said in this topic i am only a new member to this site i thought i might as wel add something to this topic since its close to my heart i have been to the philippines three times the security guards in the philippines are armed they have hand guns and shot guns
i know if the australian public were to see what i see when over seas visiting my filipina friends they would freak out
the guards dont have rubber bullets ther guns are loaded with real bullets when i aplied for my hunting licence the cops did a tharow check on me
its the ssme when i sat for my fire arms licence it cost me $2,000
so dont say we in au have the right to arm our selves
the instructers that trained me drilled us
i have only just gotten my security licence only in the philippines and in america are you allowed to have a fire arm the philippines constitution is the seme as americas constitution
my neighbour got into trouble he lost his guns he had a criminal record
so you show me in our constitution were australian citizens are alowed to say walk with a hand gun on them like i have seen in the philippines
we cant even have knifes on us sorry but i would ask in the near futer if you have something to say say it dont pick at what i have left in this topic
i am not hear to debate i joined connecting singles for other reasons
damo9
DAMO, dont worry even tho their are little 'cliques' i stand by everything i say and dont adhere to 'the status quo'
(even tho i really love thier music
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hi velveuG
I hope i did not sound like i was taking it out on you and if it sounded like i was i am sorry
i am only new to this site and found the forums section and i have been reading threw it i am a peace full guy
yet this one is close to my heart i hear what you are saying and yes i remember the shop keeper remember the female security guard who got into trouble for doing her job it happend at moorbank she was hurt but did not let the thugs get away with the money they had stollen
i am for what you are saying and in full support
but we are being drilled new laws have come in and anyone working in the security industry has to show the instructors they are confident in ther role and understand the laws in the citys they work in
even thou i miss the old days i am angry at what john howard did
shop keepers home owners single women and parents should be alowed to arm them selves and prottecting ther buisnesses familys and personal property
i was told by my trainers i can get into trouble if i kill some one but what sucks you are being payed to prottect the public and its like you are an open shooting target to the criminals who do have guns and hand guns on them
i can see that this topic gets very heated and tempers fly
i hope i was not being to ofensive in what i had said
i know guys who have guns burried on ther propertys
its like they dont trust our laws and wil defend our country from being attacked
i wish our countrys constitution was just like americas
the guys that killed my friends were of european back ground
a bullet ended his life buch of cowards they could not face him one on one six against one guard
it plays in the back of your head
when i am in the philippines you are searched before you enter a shopping center male guards search males and female guards search females
ther guns are loaded i asked my trainers a question and they got pissed off they said this will never happen in australia were normal security gaurds wil be alowed to arm them selves like i see in the philippines
guards that work in night clubs al around australia are at risk
of being hurt realy bad or wores loosing ther life for doing what they like
new south wales the guards dont even have certificate two or certificate three and the industry is being shaken up from with in
we want the same rights the police have and prottective service officers in act have
oh brain freeze i saw the mistake i made martin thanks for correcting me
i was ussing my lap top in the building i was patroling
i brought up what happend in my country to say it can also get out of control were people just start kiling each other
it has nothing to do with this topic
thanks from damo9
I hope i did not sound like i was taking it out on you and if it sounded like i was i am sorry
i am only new to this site and found the forums section and i have been reading threw it i am a peace full guy
yet this one is close to my heart i hear what you are saying and yes i remember the shop keeper remember the female security guard who got into trouble for doing her job it happend at moorbank she was hurt but did not let the thugs get away with the money they had stollen
i am for what you are saying and in full support
but we are being drilled new laws have come in and anyone working in the security industry has to show the instructors they are confident in ther role and understand the laws in the citys they work in
even thou i miss the old days i am angry at what john howard did
shop keepers home owners single women and parents should be alowed to arm them selves and prottecting ther buisnesses familys and personal property
i was told by my trainers i can get into trouble if i kill some one but what sucks you are being payed to prottect the public and its like you are an open shooting target to the criminals who do have guns and hand guns on them
i can see that this topic gets very heated and tempers fly
i hope i was not being to ofensive in what i had said
i know guys who have guns burried on ther propertys
its like they dont trust our laws and wil defend our country from being attacked
i wish our countrys constitution was just like americas
the guys that killed my friends were of european back ground
a bullet ended his life buch of cowards they could not face him one on one six against one guard
it plays in the back of your head
when i am in the philippines you are searched before you enter a shopping center male guards search males and female guards search females
ther guns are loaded i asked my trainers a question and they got pissed off they said this will never happen in australia were normal security gaurds wil be alowed to arm them selves like i see in the philippines
guards that work in night clubs al around australia are at risk
of being hurt realy bad or wores loosing ther life for doing what they like
new south wales the guards dont even have certificate two or certificate three and the industry is being shaken up from with in
we want the same rights the police have and prottective service officers in act have
oh brain freeze i saw the mistake i made martin thanks for correcting me
i was ussing my lap top in the building i was patroling
i brought up what happend in my country to say it can also get out of control were people just start kiling each other
it has nothing to do with this topic
thanks from damo9
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hi velvetuG
i just noticed i spelt your usser name wrong in my reply to you sorry ussing the new smal lap tops and my fingers are darn to big my son tels me to use a pen i am thinking i might but i hav to watch how its typed out know before i hit reply
damo9
i just noticed i spelt your usser name wrong in my reply to you sorry ussing the new smal lap tops and my fingers are darn to big my son tels me to use a pen i am thinking i might but i hav to watch how its typed out know before i hit reply
damo9
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marispotens: I own several guns for various reasons. I am pro gun only becasue Pandora's box has been opened in America and every a**hole has a gun. I carry when I think I need may need it. If I lived in a country like Ireland or England where hardly anyone owns a gun then I wouldnt feel the need to and welcome a gun ban.
Though guns are outlawed in England... Why does the British police Service feel it is now necessary to wear Kevlar vests if there are no guns? It's because criminal still have guns. By disarming the law abiding citizens just means you have created a person a criminal no longer fears.
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jvaski: I think it's more of a Macho mentality that makes some boast that they have weapons - therefore they have power over others.
I may have weapons to, but I never go around telling everyone - it's nobody's business.
Hunting is another issue. Susistance living ?? Why ?
Target practice is fun , pure dang fun .
Yea, there are many reasons to have em , just don't flaunt em...JMO
I may have weapons to, but I never go around telling everyone - it's nobody's business.
Hunting is another issue. Susistance living ?? Why ?
Target practice is fun , pure dang fun .
Yea, there are many reasons to have em , just don't flaunt em...JMO
Ah, yes you do.... you make this statement ALL the damn time. Do you think you are fooling us or are you just trying to fool yourself. You just want to be as Macho as the rest of us.
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lonelycowboy101: I realy don't think God is giving you those words because they go against everything he taught . All animals were brought before adam and he named them. God said I give you dominion over all the animals but we are to be good stewards of the earth . God got angry and wiped out all living except for noah , then he wiped out sodon and gomara for there sin .
hi lonelycowboy101
i doubt my words came from god too but i do like to stir the soup a little. i also doubt most of the bible's content ppl love quoting back at me. really i ust like watching how you all treat each other. but my personal awareness guarantees i avoid killing anything. god made bad guys and dogs too yes? cheers
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jvaski: I will take a short break and light up a bowl - so I can get on the same plain as you ..........
--- peppermint tea mit limone for me please
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CuspofMagic: --- peppermint tea mit limone for me please
limONE is fine
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avecaim: limONE is fine
man ! dont you evr sleeeeep! 
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CuspofMagic: man ! dont you evr sleeeeep!
I only wANT to sleep when I need to not when others tell me I should
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--- Vehicles of aggression
- conciously/subconciously, instill same
--- irrespective of the justification
- conciously/subconciously, instill same
--- irrespective of the justification
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CuspofMagic: --- Vehicles of aggression
- conciously/subconciously, instill same
--- irrespective of the justification
- conciously/subconciously, instill same
--- irrespective of the justification
changes come one s in a while
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avecaim: changes come one s in a while
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lonelycowboy101: The sad things are the people that believe as you and I wish to God everyone would but In this world with all the evil people if we don't arm ourself we will be killed Look at the Budist that don't believe in Killing being killed by the violent radicle sect of Muslum , If you watched all the pictures of them blowing up all there shrines in afganistan . When the passive don't arm they are taken over by the violent . God never intended for his people to be Ignorant or stupid but strong enough to withstand the onslaut of evil . Thanks for the great conversation
the buddhists are getting slaughtered not just by the muslims
hows this worry about others working for you?
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damo9: hi velveuG I hope i did not sound like i was taking it out on you and if it sounded like i was i am sorry
i am only new to this site and found the forums section and i have been reading threw it i am a peace full guy
yet this one is close to my heart i hear what you are saying and yes i remember the shop keeper remember the female security guard who got into trouble for doing her job it happend at moorbank she was hurt but did not let the thugs get away with the money they had stollen
i am for what you are saying and in full support
but we are being drilled new laws have come in and anyone working in the security industry has to show the instructors they are confident in ther role and understand the laws in the citys they work in even thou i miss the old days i am angry at what john howard did
shop keepers home owners single women and parents should be alowed to arm them selves and prottecting ther buisnesses familys and personal property
i was told by my trainers i can get into trouble if i kill some one but what sucks you are being payed to prottect the public and its like you are an open shooting target to the criminals who do have guns and hand guns on them i can see that this topic gets very heated and tempers fly
i hope i was not being to ofensive in what i had said i know guys who have guns burried on ther propertys
its like they dont trust our laws and wil defend our country from being attacked i wish our countrys constitution was just like americas
the guys that killed my friends were of european back ground
a bullet ended his life buch of cowards they could not face him one on one six against one guard
it plays in the back of your head
when i am in the philippines you are searched before you enter a shopping center male guards search males and female guards search females
ther guns are loaded i asked my trainers a question and they got pissed off they said this will never happen in australia were normal security gaurds wil be alowed to arm them selves like i see in the philippines
guards that work in night clubs al around australia are at risk
of being hurt realy bad or wores loosing ther life for doing what they like new south wales the guards dont even have certificate two or certificate three and the industry is being shaken up from with in we want the same rights the police have and prottective service officers in act have
oh brain freeze i saw the mistake i made martin thanks for correcting me
i was ussing my lap top in the building i was patroling i brought up what happend in my country to say it can also get out of control were people just start kiling each other it has nothing to do with this topic thanks from damo9
i am only new to this site and found the forums section and i have been reading threw it i am a peace full guy
yet this one is close to my heart i hear what you are saying and yes i remember the shop keeper remember the female security guard who got into trouble for doing her job it happend at moorbank she was hurt but did not let the thugs get away with the money they had stollen
i am for what you are saying and in full support
but we are being drilled new laws have come in and anyone working in the security industry has to show the instructors they are confident in ther role and understand the laws in the citys they work in even thou i miss the old days i am angry at what john howard did
shop keepers home owners single women and parents should be alowed to arm them selves and prottecting ther buisnesses familys and personal property
i was told by my trainers i can get into trouble if i kill some one but what sucks you are being payed to prottect the public and its like you are an open shooting target to the criminals who do have guns and hand guns on them i can see that this topic gets very heated and tempers fly
i hope i was not being to ofensive in what i had said i know guys who have guns burried on ther propertys
its like they dont trust our laws and wil defend our country from being attacked i wish our countrys constitution was just like americas
the guys that killed my friends were of european back ground
a bullet ended his life buch of cowards they could not face him one on one six against one guard
it plays in the back of your head
when i am in the philippines you are searched before you enter a shopping center male guards search males and female guards search females
ther guns are loaded i asked my trainers a question and they got pissed off they said this will never happen in australia were normal security gaurds wil be alowed to arm them selves like i see in the philippines
guards that work in night clubs al around australia are at risk
of being hurt realy bad or wores loosing ther life for doing what they like new south wales the guards dont even have certificate two or certificate three and the industry is being shaken up from with in we want the same rights the police have and prottective service officers in act have
oh brain freeze i saw the mistake i made martin thanks for correcting me
i was ussing my lap top in the building i was patroling i brought up what happend in my country to say it can also get out of control were people just start kiling each other it has nothing to do with this topic thanks from damo9
hi damo
now this is more like it, a reasoned rational point/counterpoint
now, i will ask this of you damo..
if you were to (god forbid) be subject to a shooting at a club or shopping centre, dont you think your going to be shot by the offenders BEFORE you've even had time to put your hand on your own weapon?
and if say you are harmed in that shooting and you go for your gun, there would be a high likely hood in a crowded area for you to hit an innocent target, as you would be fumbling the shot through the pain you feel?
i am sorry to have make you visualise this situation, but i feel its important to the debate
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