Yeah, its called "Shutting the Stable Door after the Horse Has Bolted".
This cycle of milking the benefit system has to stop somewhere, and instead of bleating about human rights, maybe you should consider those childless couples, or couples who dont have kids who are struggling to pay their mortgages and getting thrown out on the streets.
Youre circumstances were different, I think. You didnt start out on benefit, and didnt intend to be out of work. When we pay our taxes we are definately entitled to take a little back!
My issue is with those who are benefits to start with.
If there were no such thing as Child Benefit, and families had to support their families purely on the flat rate welfare they got for general living, or purely on any wages received, if they were struggling to support existing children, they would be mad to conceive yet another child.
However, Child Benefit does exist, but is looked upon by too many as a God Given Right, and the basis on which they decide on another mouth to feed. Thats not right. Its an addition to any income, nothing more, and should be looked upon as such.
I know this is a VERY radical idea, but maybe people should ensure they DONT get pregnant if there is any possibility whatsoever that they cannot afford to support that child, or by supporting that child any others may suffer financially.
Take Benefit/Child Support out of the equation for a moment; pretend it doesnt exist..would anyone, in their right mind conceive another child when they are struggling financially? No, of course they wouldnt.
Child benefit is supposed to be an ADDITION to the weekly income, not the basis on which it is decided whether another mouth can be afforded to be fed.
There was a time on CS when you could post a topic such as this, and have a really good, informative discussion.
That time, it seems, has passed.
The thoughts expressed in my OP are for discussion purposes; they do not purport to express any political views, they simply offer an opportunity for discussion and idea exchange.
Maybe the "Do you Screw on the First Date" threads are more suitable these days..
I find it astonishing that even in so called Republics, there exists some kind of class system, and the fall of communism (in general)proved that there is always the haves and have-nots, even in a society based on equalism.
In this day and age, the idea of "Class" levels is considered something that belongs to the past, together with race discrimination and world poverty.
Of course, the latter two still exist, and sadly probably always will. I believe it is the same with the class system.
There are always going to be those who were born into a more priviliged world and whose family were considered "wealthy". There are those who are what they call "New Money", who to a certain degree replaced old-fashioned aristocracy, even in so-called "Republics".
There are also those who claim to denounce their upbringing, claim to be a "Person of the People" and fight for the common man.
However, ideas of "class" come in different guises; some are looked down upon because their spelling is not great, or their fashion sense is considered dubious, or their accent is not cut-glass.
Can humanity ever truely get to a point where we are all equal, are all classless, and no-one is considered on a higher ranking than anyone else?
Who judges others in this capacity more? Men or women? Or are they both equally judgemental?
I fear there will always be "Snobs"; whether they be literary, financial or otherwise.
RE: Welfare baby solution: Family Cap.
No, not at all.Again, you assume that just because they have not publically stated something on a public forum they have not experienced it.