Freedom and respect are like religion, great until those who think only about themselves, twist and mutilate it to suit their own needs
Oh and Magenta, The French president has not banned anything as you keep insisting, he has agreed to support a line of thought about the security issues that can be made with that garment.
The point being made, I think, is that those that lie are really showing they have little self esteem, so by lying they bolster themselves up, without meeting you cannot see this exaggeration, example being 5’7 not 5’ 10, size 14 not size 10, 2 children not none etc, when such people write a profile they are trying to sell themselves with a picture they think “you” want to see rather than the picture they see when looking in a mirror.
And in the UK we have the same, which is why I clearly stated "When in a country that is not 100 percent Muslim" I never assumed anything, least of all that all Muslims are immigrants, however, when one sector of society is a minority it would be sensible to respect the wishes of the majority and at the very least make a compromise towards their social standards
Please, make your mind up, either Muslim women have to wear it as a religious symbol or its a cultural garment which gives them a choice, my understanding is that it is a cultural garment and as such gives the woman the choice of whether to wear it or not. Nuns do NOT have a choice, when they take the order of becoming a Nun they are then bound to wear the habit (In its various forms) forever.
I agree in some degree with what you are saying Morgan, but, it still remains that when you are in a host country you abide by that countries laws and respects, after all, if a south American native who never wore clothes as part of his culture came to live in your town, you and your fellow countrymen would expect him to at least cover up certain parts, and while he may still be semi naked he would have made some attempt to respect the country he was now in. By asking that Muslim women do not cover their face when in a country that is not one hundred percent Muslim, surely that is a reasonable request, a compromise perhaps to actually banning the whole Burga
Its not the politicians that are creating the mistrust the average westerner has for Muslims, they are creating that themselves by not condemning and showing outrage at the atrocities done "In the name of Islam" if only the elders and senior religious leaders of the Muslim faith would stand up and shout louder that they also condemn the violent acts, I appreciate that they have spoken out against terrorism, but it needs to be full headlines not on page 5 of the local paper. When western people can see and hear those leaders are on the same side as those seeking peace, then we can work towards a fully integrated society of all religions. IMO
Hi Sis, very interesting subject, seems like the French have srirred up more than they intended, but when national security is at stake I guess anything goes, I shall continue to read this thread with interest
To grow old gracefully, forever looking into the eyes of the one who loves and cherishes me as I do her, to recall the wonderful memories we shared together , and to look at our children with hearts bursting with pride.
Just to get back to the OP, my thoughts have always been that the sharia is worn (in western countries) not for cultural or religious reasons but to make a statement, I can recall a court case in recent UK papers where a woman refused to uncover her face on religious grounds, the whole case became a farce. It was proved that she wore the veil only because it made her feel different to other women around her, it was like a uniform such as the Goths, Hippies, etc etc would wear, more to outrage and shock than for the history attached to the garments.(no I am not saying the Sharia is designed to shock or outrage). In my view, if someone wishes to cover up their beauty, by cloth, tattoos, metal or any other objects then thats there choice, but, let them not complain when they are rejected by the rest of those who revel in their own perceived beauty. Can I also point out the Nuns habits do not cover their face, you can see immediately that they are indeed female so there is no security breach there
Regarding the wi-fi, you need to buy a usb plug-in device that acts as a wi-fi connector, Dlink do a great one at around 20 pounds, you plug it into the laptop, run the software that comes with it and hey-presto you have a wireless laptop, good luck Rizla
As the father of 4 children, three boys and a daughter of 4 years, my pride seems to increase every day,it's not just their achievements that produce pride, its the way they have grown into their individual characters, each has some trait of each parent but have also created their own personality, even my daughter at her tender age has become a personality in her own right. We, as parents, are truly blessed to have children.
What a shame more western men/women don't have the same family values as you, in our culture today its made far to easy for a parent to just walk away from what was a loving and happy family, rather than face up to a problem and work with their spouse to solve that problem.
Rarely is the grass greener on the other side
Krisha, I salute you and also offer my best wishes for you and your childs future.
There are some great watering holes in the area, Topsham has some really great pubs, there is a pub with large car park that overlooks the estuary with good food and ale but in the town centre they are a bit naff, catering mainly for the teens or tourists. My fav was the twin locks off the marsh barton industrial estate, great choice of beer or al least was when I lived there, I was in Heavytree area for 6 years near the Hospital.
Good place to take your friend is the maritime museum by the river, good parking and wheelchair access. Follow signs to city centre then for Marsh Barton, as you go over the river the museum is just on your left, well signposted. Also the Bishops gardens next to the cathedral is worth a visit if the weather is ok.
Just to play devils advocate, lets turn this around, why do women always say they want a “Tall dark handsome man”? Because its basic instinct for a woman to find a mate that will produce an “ideal” child. Men are no different.
We first have to admit that physical attraction is just as important as mental attraction, of course as time goes on the physical side lessens as the mental side grows, but initially if we see someone that we find physically attractive then we are moved to find out if the inside is just as good. But those who say they are only interested in whats inside are IMO, just lying to themselves, why else does virtually every profile say at some point “Lets see if we have that spark/Chemistry” it can only occur when the mixture of physical and mental attraction is correct. If, as so many women say, they are interested only on what in inside the man was true, then CS would be full of successful relationships, instead, we find ourselves constantly battling just to get to have a meeting, because most (Not every) member look at the picture and make a decision there and then, that decision being based on what they see, not what the person has inside and can offer within a relationship.
All mens taste differs and the same goes for women, thats a given, or else the human race would have died out long ago.
I lived in a hippie commune when a lot younger, there were disagreements, but most of them were sorted out privately, if not, the whole group was consulted and a decision made and kept to.
But this kind of lifestyle can become claustrophobic after a while, sometimes we need to let our imaginations run riot.
Hi Trish, hope all is well with you, just popped back to Cs as I have been somewhat busy trying to clear the house prior to my big move. I will try to use internet Cafe when travelling to catch up on you and the rest of my friends here'
A mouse looked through the crack in the wall to see the farmer and his wife open a package.
What food might this contain?' The mouse wondered - - - he was devastated to discover it was a mousetrap.
Retreating to the farmyard,
the mouse proclaimed the warning :
There is a mousetrap in the house! There is a mousetrap in the house!' The chicken clucked and scratched, raised her head and said, 'Mr.Mouse, I can tell this is a grave concern to you, but it is of no consequence to me.
I cannot be bothered by it.'
The mouse turned to the pig and told him,
'There is a mousetrap in the house!
There is a mousetrap in the house!'
The pig sympathized, but said, I am so very sorry, Mr.Mouse, but there is nothing I can do about it but pray.
Be assured you are in my prayers.'
The mouse turned to the cow and said
'There is a mousetrap in the house!
There is a mousetrap in the house!'
The cow said, 'Wow, Mr. Mouse. I'm sorry for you, but it's no skin off my nose.'
So, the mouse returned to the house, head down and dejected, to face the farmer's mousetrap . . . alone.
That very night a sound was heard throughout the house -- like the sound of a mousetrap catching its prey.
The farmer's wife rushed to see what was caught. In the darkness, she did not see it was a venomous snake whose tail the trap had caught.
The snake bit the farmer's wife.
The farmer rushed her to the hospital ,
and she returned home with a fever.
Everyone knows you treat a fever with fresh chicken soup, so the farmer took his hatchet to the farmyard for the soup's main ingredient.
But his wife's sickness continued, so friends and neighbors came to sit with her around the clock.
To feed them, the farmer butchered the pig.
The farmer's wife did not get well;she died.
So many people came for her funeral, the farmer had the cow slaughtered to provide enough meat for all of them.
The mouse looked upon it all from his crack in the wall with great sadness.
So, the next time you hear someone is facing a problem and think it doesn't concern you,
remember ----
when one of us is threatened, we are all at risk.
We are all involved in this journey called life.
We must keep an eye out for one another and make an extra effort to encourage one another.
A mouse looked through the crack in the wall to see the farmer and his wife open a package.
What food might this contain?' The mouse wondered - - - he was devastated to discover it was a mousetrap.
Retreating to the farmyard,
the mouse proclaimed the warning :
There is a mousetrap in the house! There is a mousetrap in the house!' The chicken clucked and scratched, raised her head and said, 'Mr.Mouse, I can tell this is a grave concern to you, but it is of no consequence to me.
I cannot be bothered by it.'
The mouse turned to the pig and told him,
'There is a mousetrap in the house!
There is a mousetrap in the house!'
The pig sympathized, but said, I am so very sorry, Mr.Mouse, but there is nothing I can do about it but pray.
Be assured you are in my prayers.'
The mouse turned to the cow and said
'There is a mousetrap in the house!
There is a mousetrap in the house!'
The cow said, 'Wow, Mr. Mouse. I'm sorry for you, but it's no skin off my nose.'
So, the mouse returned to the house, head down and dejected, to face the farmer's mousetrap . . . alone.
That very night a sound was heard throughout the house -- like the sound of a mousetrap catching its prey.
The farmer's wife rushed to see what was caught. In the darkness, she did not see it was a venomous snake whose tail the trap had caught.
The snake bit the farmer's wife.
The farmer rushed her to the hospital ,
and she returned home with a fever.
Everyone knows you treat a fever with fresh chicken soup, so the farmer took his hatchet to the farmyard for the soup's main ingredient.
But his wife's sickness continued, so friends and neighbors came to sit with her around the clock.
To feed them, the farmer butchered the pig.
The farmer's wife did not get well;she died.
So many people came for her funeral, the farmer had the cow slaughtered to provide enough meat for all of them.
The mouse looked upon it all from his crack in the wall with great sadness.
So, the next time you hear someone is facing a problem and think it doesn't concern you,
remember ----
when one of us is threatened, we are all at risk.
We are all involved in this journey called life.
We must keep an eye out for one another and make an extra effort to encourage one another.
I was thinking, it might be very interesting if on Sat The mods at Cs allowed us to send anonymous flowers to each other, that would really get the tongues wagging trying to find out who sent what to who
They come from my families home town of Hereford, and I remember seeing them at a bar in a tiny town called Ross on Wye, they were way over the top, seem to recall that they had a different lead singer then. But later in the early 70's they did a tour and I saw them again locally, what a great band, many great memories, thanks for reminding me, I had forgotten them
RE: Any nice guys left out there?
That being said, don't you live in a country that has months of thunderstorms???However, the possibility of finding a genuine and true woman is probably less than being struck by lightening