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RE: "Defensive narcissist"

Yes, I asked for it ... whoever claimed the Swiss don't have a sense of humour was probably a shrink !

RE: "Defensive narcissist"

Profanity as the reply to pointing out that you weren't keeping up with the flow

Priceless !

RE: "Defensive narcissist"

Thanks for the gift of your worthless opinion ... you can have it back with the reminder that what you claim to see see in me is a reflection of yourself.

Whenever you point a finger - three point back at yourself

You have a nice day now LoupyLou

:-)

RE: "Defensive narcissist"

I thought you had wanted to move one ?

THERE IS NO SCIENCE TO SUPPORT PSYCHIATRY

PSYCHIATRIC DIAGNOSIS (Labelling) IS SOLELY A MATTER OF THE OPINION

IT IS DANGEROUS BECAUSE when a person is in distress they are always in a situation that exceeds their own personal knowledge and coping ability. Psychiatry fosters the belief that the person will need long term even lifetime treatment. It encourages people to 'learn about' their label and live accordingly ... it rarely fosters & never encourages hope or belief in recovery.

There is now also ample evidence (end of post) that increased levels of psychiatric 'care' increases risk and number of actual suicides

Don't forget the political misuses where repressive regimes employ psychiatrists to declare 'enemies of the state' as insane & incarcerate them without trial or hope of release. Keep in mind the recent events of Guantanamo Bay - CIA employed psychiatrists to DESIGN THE WORST FORMS OF PHYSICAL & PSYCHOLOGICAL TORTURE EVER KNOWN

Why do you think I am trying to 'defend' narcissism or any other label - it's very plain that I object to labelling ?

People are NOT consistently the same over their life time & a person might have a period when due to a surplus of situational confidence (as an example) they seem to have less regard for others than it may seem to others. Does that make THEM 'narcissistic' or might it equally suggest some lack of confidence, some degree of 'lack' of self esteem in person passing judgement as OP asked?

A person may be grieving & there's nothing so certain as grief to land a fast label of DEPRESSION. Grief is a person's natural response to a real (or perceived sense of) loss. Loss requires TIME to recover from & love not drugging.

How about persons who tagged with 'autistic spectrum disorder' label or others who have been raised under difficult circumstances that lead them to be more introverted than some & so more concerned with their own interests than certain others think 'appropriate' ... are they also narcissists ?

Who has right to judge & label another person?'

Why are YOU defending a profession that has been so vicious and wicked in it's treatment of women in particular ? Are you unaware that psychiatrists incarcerated women in mental institutions for decades for having borne children outside of marriage or remaining unmarried ?

Kamilah Brock: Woman held in mental health facility because police didn't believe BMW was hers. Taken to Harlem hospital psychiatric ward, she claims medical records obtained by her attorney, show she was forced to take lithium & injected with powerful sedatives.
Samuel Osborne @SamuelOsborne93 Sunday 13 September 2015 (UK Independent)

"As the amount of involvement that people have with psychiatric professionals and psychiatric care increases, the likelihood that they will commit suicide rises steadily and dramatically, according to a study in Social Psychiatry and Psychiatric Epidemiology. Taking psychiatric medications makes people nearly 6 times more likely to kill themselves, while having spent time in the previous year in a psychiatric hospital makes them over 44 times more likely to kill themselves"


3 large studies have now found that the more we spend on mental health services the higher our suicide rates. In addition, a recent study has completely discredited claims that 90% of those who die from suicide are mentally ill at the time of their death.

RE: "Defensive narcissist"

To this and your following post there can be but one reply ...

" Please - don't act like such a prat ... unless of course you are one "

RE: "Defensive narcissist"

What you post is your responsibility ...

RE: "Defensive narcissist"

Te Rauparaha composed "Ka Mate" circa 1820 as a celebration of life over death after his lucky escape from pursuing Ngati Maniapoto and Waikato enemies. He had hidden from them in a food-storage pit, and climbed back into the light to be met by a chief friendly to him – Te Whareangi (the "hairy man").

The haka as composed by Te Rauparaha begins with a chant:

Kikiki kakaka kauana!
Kei waniwania taku tara
Kei tarawahia, kei te rua i te kerokero!
He pounga rahui te uira ka rarapa;
Ketekete kau ana to peru kairiri
Mau au e koro e – Hi! Ha!
Ka wehi au ka matakana,
Ko wai te tangata kia rere ure?
Tirohanga nga rua rerarera
Nga rua kuri kakanui i raro! Aha ha!
Then follows the main body of the haka:
Ka mate, ka mate! ka ora! ka ora!
Ka mate! ka mate! ka ora! ka ora!
Tenei te tangata puhuruhuru
Nana nei i tiki mai whakawhiti te ra
A, upane! ka upane!
A, upane, ka upane, whiti te ra!

'Tis death! 'tis death! (or: I may die) ’Tis life! ‘tis life! (or: I may live)
’Tis death! ‘tis death! ’Tis life! ‘tis life!
This is the hairy man
Who brought the sun and caused it to shine
A step upward, another step upward!
A step upward, another... the Sun shines!

And you wusses feel intimated because it includes a finger drawn across the throat and think it means they're gonna kill you ?

Oh aye ... the Lions usually DO DIE on the pitch when meeting the All Blacks !





The French boys cling to one another in face of the energy ;)

RE: "Defensive narcissist"

Dear Admin

Can we have a VERY BIG 'ROLLS EYES' emoji !



Dear Rainbow

What is the name of the body of so called professionals who issue labels such as 'Narcissist'

You might consider the answer adresses your question

:-)

RE: "Defensive narcissist"

No doubt ... she has to be right when she's arguing both sides of the story :-)

How could she be wrong ... at least half of the time ?

RE: "Defensive narcissist"

I guess you must be a Morris Dancer then ... dancing with your walking sticks around handbags the order of the day down your way eh Mikey :-)

RE: "Defensive narcissist"

Hmmmm ... you seem to be arguing with yourself here ?

RE: a big mistake

Confuscius he say many things ... but none as daft as you pardre !

RE: the Lord is the strength of my life--Psalm 27:1

Never quite sure why you're here in this ... this Den of Iniquity !

Pull up a pew, have a cold and tell us all about your missionary aspirations ?

RE: "Defensive narcissist"

That Right Greece ... The CRANDLE of civilisation ...

Yeah right the CRANDLE Of Illiterate Civilisation you mean !!!!


NZ and civilised cannot be put together in a congruent sentence !!!




such fun when a typo creeps in at a critical moment

If you could have been born at any point in history

then

Who would you like to have been

Where

When

What would you like to have done / left undone (as that person) and

Why

RE: a big mistake

You're a good sport Zorba ... 20% discount ... I don' wanna take the entire Annual Gross National Income of the whole country off you for one test !


<<< I'll shout the round !!!

RE: "Defensive narcissist"

If you'd ever read a book ( other than one's that had outline picture and a packet of crayons attached ) you'd know that pretty much ALL that the Ancient Greeks ever knew was filched from the Ancient Egyptians !!!

RE: a big mistake

You might like to reconsider that remark in the light of Jeffrey Archer and any number of other British (and international) parliamentarians and similar con artistes !

I'm curious so I'll ask - what happens to one's arsehole if one were to fly to the other side of the pond ... and at what point on the journey would that occur ?

RE: a big mistake

Define normal and send me the height, weight, BMI, IQ and hair colour of the farter together with your payment of $2500 US and I'll send you the answer inside 14 days!

RE: No war anymore

Perhaps because he was listing 'nation states' ?

He also left out the CIA so that probably balances the job up eh ;-)

RE: "Defensive narcissist"

Yes, we were waiting for you ... yet another troublesome Greek Legend eh Chris :-) :-) :-)

RE: "Defensive narcissist"

Psychiatry is a pseudo science - it always has been and always will be.

They make utterly outrageous claims about brain chemistry (for example) but they do not have ANY TESTS WHATSOEVER let alone any formal standardised tests to form baselines as to excesses or shortages of any hormone or other biochemical in the brain.*

ABSOLUTELY ALL that they do have is OPINION and even then it's rare to have a consensus! The general rule in the profession is that it will always be the opinion of the shrink with more years, papers and fame under their belt and / or the bigger income that will prevail !

I'm most grateful for your permission that I may 'stick with my views' and I'll cheerfully bet you a month's salary that you cannot prove me wrong :-)

* In reality there likely cannot ever be any meaningful tests for (say) serotonin or other brain hormones and etc as these substances and many other (similar substances such as neurotransmitters) are created on demand. If for example I put a big nasty dog in your vicinity and you are afraid of big nasty dogs ... then you will pump out a whole lot of 'stressy chemicals' and if were to set you down in some place in nature that you adored then you'll pump out the calm and relaxing chems ! Any such test therefore would be like looking at one frame on a movie reel ... all that it would tell you would be the state of play in that moment ... and even that would be meaningless as the person might be relaxed or wound up about the test ;-)

:-)

RE: "Defensive narcissist"

In my very, very best pantomime voice Oh NO YOU DIDN'T

The entire post was a cut n paste which included the writer of that piece mentioning what David Thomas had said in HIS book !



No doubt, Serene will be along shortly to help you beat me up ...

:cheers

RE: "Defensive narcissist"

ROFL ... I'm sure you saw the context



here have one of those weak beers you southerners can tolerate !

RE: "Defensive narcissist"

Was it one HJ Heinz's ... probably tomatoe, though it could well have been HP, or hammond's Chop ?

RE: No war anymore

Well, do your bit then, have a quiet word in the ears of your chaps ... jolly good start if they stopped !

RE: "Defensive narcissist"

Does the D12 in your user name represent Desperate raised to the power 12 ?

RE: "Defensive narcissist"

Feel free to huff n puff and blow yourself out ... I'm not the least bit worried by female sociopaths :-)

RE: New CS Formats

A REALLY useful feature would be if we could roll mouse over a photo and have ''Check this image on TinEye" or some other reverse image scanner !

While it would not be foolproof it sure would trim down the number of scammers and fake pic users :-)

RE: New CS Formats

I can accept the reasons behind site security for new members ... but even so 30 clicks to gain access to your account?

Maybe they want rid of us all ?

And who could blame them ???