confused about the vaccine
I hear on the news....or at least they make it sound like...that if you are vaccinated you will not spread the virus. I literally just heard a report about the potential for spreading the virus in the Olympic games. They said that 80% of the athletes have been vaccinated and there was not much of a concern there for the spreading of the virus...but the audience was on average only 20% vaccinated...and that is where the real threat of spreading came from.As far as I know, the vaccine only helped with mitigating the symptoms of the virus, but you could still get it. So in essence, a vaccinated person could indeed have the virus, spread it....and not even know they were spreading it because they were not suffering from the symptoms. I am not a brain surgeon...but, wouldn't that make them more of a risk for spreading it? I mean, at least the unvaccinated knew they were sick and would not be out in public areas....hence, spreading it less.
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This is not an easy clean cut do or don't.
Yes it's experimental, yes it was pulled through in a hurry, we R all a slight bit guinea pigs here.
Some see a conspire, some don't.
Fact remains: covid 19 is out there. YOU decide if you want a risky protection that may or may not be effective. Or take your chances without.
1/3 of the ones going to hospital dies, the other 2/3's may never be the same again.
I've also researched methods of Strengthening one's Immune System.
I know a married couple - He's an MD & vaxed for Professional Reasons.
She's researched the vax & has opted to Not take it. They're Still Married ...
Best Case Scenario - Get to the other side of the Pandemic with Neither covid Nor vax.
Should covid be encountered, keep the Immune System in Good Working Order.
I know folks IRL who were unvaxed & got covid - Some recovered, some not.
I know folks IRL who were vaxed -
Most are fine, one's had a Serious Adverse Event, one's dead.
Whatever Any of y'all's plan for getting through the Pandemic - I wish All y'all Well.
I had two shots of Pfizer, doing great, we're waiting for my son to get his schedule. Life here in Amman has started to have some sort of normalcy. daily Positive rates and number of deaths have significantly decreased. I went to the office and stayed their longer for the first time in almost a year in half , people can now walk around without masks, I'm still wearing one when I'm out there though
As you know this virus can evolve indefinitely.
The number of possible genetic mutations is greater than all the atoms in the visible universe?
I feel sorry for all fearful people who don't accept death as a natural event that occurs every second on this planet.
On the contrary, the acceptance will prolong your life.
Regarding my original post about the vaccine, there does seem to be an agreement on that portion...that it does seem that those who are vaccinated do have a lower amount of the virus, so thus, they only pass along that less harmful amount to others. However with that said, they can still pass it along to others...presumably, unwittingly.
In the most recent news I was just listening to seconds ago...it seems there is discussion about making the vaccine mandatory.
...anyway...
Thank you all.
Nice to see you are still kicking and nice to see you in general. I am happy to hear your vaccination is going well. I do know several people around here who have had it and they all say things are fine. Well, I know some who only got the first one. My sister is scheduled for her second one tomorrow (I think). Hopefully all goes well with her and everyone.
Thank you for sharing your experience.
You know with the news I just heard, here in the states, we may not have a choice about taking the vaccine or not.
But regarding your post...I gather you are speaking of natural selection and we should just accept that. It can be argued that is/was God's plan for us....or if you prefer....the higher nature of the universe. That very well could be; however, what if this virus is not the work of the higher nature of the universe or of God? Then what?
I sure hope I am interpreting your message here correctly.
I think the mistake is imagining there is another side. There is no reason at all for the virus to suddenly wink out of existence now that it has been well established it can survive outside a laboratory environment. So there is no getting to the other side of the pandemic. Every piece of mail in your mail box, every thing you touch from a store if bought recently (within the past 3 months), every person you talk to, every stitch of clothing you wear that someones breath brushed against, every thing you buy at the deli, your chicken from the KFC, your dog when he comes in. your cat, your child home from school, the virus can be lurking on any of them waiting for you to touch it, or breath it in, or ingest it. It is what viruses do.
If there are enough of them taken in by you (the number is imprecise and varies depending on the individual and circumstances) then either your immune system gets over run or they slide by and start killing your cells one by one. The beautiful thing about this virus is because it is new it initially triggers no response from your immune system. Your internal border patrol can't see them! UNLESS of course, you had the vaccine and or have had the virus before but survived. The vaccine provides an instruction set to your T cells and they pass the information on to your killer cells. The same thing happens if you survive an infection. Our marvelous T cells collect fragment, and keep a record of that invader's attributes then notifiy your future white blood cells so they know to kill it. But no past infection, no antibodies, no vaccine to force your T cells to make antibodies? The raider is invisible to your defenses and sooner or later you are about to be pillaged, and maybe burnt too. RIP
I know a dude whose got bad teeth. He plans on wearing the mask as long as possible.
Anyway Robert, no many how many beers in the fridge....I just don't think I will be home at that time.
Aw-right, time for me to get some zzzzzzzz's
Thanks for the fun chat.
Thanks for the funny story you shared.
Good night.
U.S. News Media Interrupts Streaming Of Pharmaceutical Advertising To Report That Their Sponsor That's Raked In $Billions With Covid "Vax" Now Claims Y'all Need A 3rd Jab For The Delta Variant Or You'll Die ...
Majority Of Physicians Decline COVID Shots, According To Survey By The Association Of American Physicians And Surgeons (AAPS)
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Association of American Physicians and Surgeons (AAPS)
Jun 16, 2021, 13:46 ET
TUCSON, Ariz., June 16, 2021 /PRNewswire/ -- Of the 700 physicians responding to an internet survey by the Association of American Physicians and Surgeons (AAPS), nearly 60 percent said they were not "fully vaccinated" against COVID.
This contrasts with the claim by the American Medical Association that 96 percent of practicing physicians are fully vaccinated. This was based on 300 respondents.
Neither survey represents a random sample of all American physicians, but the AAPS survey shows that physician support for the mass injection campaign is far from unanimous.
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Hi Ken!
Hi Rob!
Hi Johnny
I read yesterday that there will be a third jab for Pfizer and yes, looks like it's going to become a quarterly thing now, big money for the pharma!
it's here to stay so I guess the only thing we can do is to be extra careful, keep wearing mask and dont forget alcohol and sanitizer wherever you go...and avoid crowded places ! How are supposed to go forth and multiply
I read yesterday that there will be a third jab for Pfizer and yes, looks like it's going to become a quarterly thing now, big money for the pharma!
ALWAYS Follow The Money.
Some months ago - when the mRNA Therapy was coming out - I predicted the $Billions being raked in by Big Pharma would bring about a pandemic OF Pandemics.
Any time anyone anywhere in the World Sneezes, the sycophant News Outlets will proclaim a Pandemic & their Big Pharma Sponsors will demand $Billions to develop / produce New Products -
Which News Outlets will then pitch as the ONLY Alternative to Certain Death.
What with the Delta Variant & the New "Vax" ...
You are so obsessed with this left right thing. Get real - humans are humans, you can find whatever statistics you want, but there is nothing meaningful in it, nor in what you post.
Makes me wonder, where in history have we heard about a people's government going door to door.
Anyway, if you are a Fox News listener, they say not to answer the door and don't tell them anything.
Your Beef is with Bill Maher NOT your humble Commenter ...
Note that I said "Lefties" - Not "Leftards" ... Color me all Joe Sensitive ...
I wonder just who they will be sending to people's doors. I have a suspicion.
Hopefully I am just getting all confused here.
I am sure they will show up with ice cream cones and big checks too.
But you will not be forced to take the shot is my long term bet.
Human rights & law suits.
At least I know that will not happen in Norway ever.
Despite a wild gov and wild Wash d.c and more wild stuff, still USA is the land of the free- right?
So chill and say no when they come, politely but firmly.
Just ref human rights, cos this is actually one of them.
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Where is your link to a serous news site or doctorial document puplished in a medisin news outlet, and I mean this last decade, not some outdated one... grr.. hmmm? This will not do!
But aren't all news sites and documents written by someone? Everything is written by people. Humans.
Some claimed Coffee was no good for people. Later, others claimed it is good for people.
Influence the people by influencing those who influence the people.
Side effects are rare. Then why are more being talked about? A couple was just on the news. They both got both shots. Waited months..or did they wait a year after. Anyway..to go on vacation. They are now warning people..wear masks. Cause they came home and both have covid. Headaches, pain, etc. She says she had pneumonia years back and credits shots with staying free of it this time. Just had bad cold symptoms.
What they say is rare might not be so rare. And what will happen when under 12s are sneezing on each other. Any person who had both shots could be a Typhoid Mary. Symptom free and spreading as they go about without masks. To non and fully.
What will the future bring. And how come nothing is said in regards to Moderna or J&J shots?