The first 'Mass Slaying' that came to world attention was that at Hungerford in 1987/8 and interesting that they have been happening ever since especially in the USA.
It's NOT the guns that are the issue.
It's the state of mind of the PEOPLE who are taking those guns and using them.
The thing to do is to look back at such 'sea change events' and see what preceded them.
In the case of the Hungerford Massacre - that happened about a year after the introduction of Prozac, and as the number of people given that drug and others of it's genre.
It's a laudable notion to 'ease mental torment' but when one of the side effects is to eliminate the humanity that's ruled by the normal inhibitory mechanisms ... these events are what follows.
Many people have had a bad day and expressed 'murderous thoughts' but they don;t ever 'do anything' because that normal inhibitory system prevents action ... they know it would be wrong. On a lesser scale, just look at some of the stupid things people do when they have 'lessened' their inhibitions with an alcoholic drink or two!
But, feed them certain drugs and combos and that inhibition is totally removed, as well as with it the sense of 'conscience' about right / wrong.
A person on such drugs then will, having had a 'murderous thought' simply set to and find the means whereby and the method of literally 'executing their intent'
First there's the need to resolve the (prescription) drugging problem that drives these behaviours, to take away the root cause.
I'll follow this with a second post, not related to drugging, but significant to the debate as another 'vital question' to be asked is 'Who benefits and who loses by the introduction of ANY new law'
There's only ONE thing you need to remember if you head off to play with any of the Nut Doctors, well perhaps TWO actually
1) They are well meaning enough, but most of them are actually way more screwed up than you. They go into 'training' somehow believing that by 'doing the training' they will resolve their own issues. Sorry n all, but becoming educated in various techniques tends to work very much AGAINST the individual. This is because it's a game of strategy and learning the tools makes the learner more able to defend (their issues) against the person who's trying to help them.
2) NEVER EVER even think of accepting their 'DIAGNOSIS' or labeling of you... and this applies a hundredfold if the individual is a 'specialist' in whatever they announce is your 'problem / condition / disorder / syndrome.
Be especially wary of the words 'syndrome' and 'borderline' in any diagnosis as these are technical words for 'I really havent a clue whats wrong with you, but I'll have to offer something in order to justify being paid!
The REALLY BIG problem with accepting a diagnosis is that you (the patient) tend to pop off to the net and get well informed about 'your diagnosis' and tragically will then tend to 'conform to' that diagnosis, and worse still will proceed to decline according to whatever you read!
This is a PROVEN FACT and has been long established amongst medical students who 'create symptoms' of many dread diseases while studying same and do in fact often manage to make themselves ill.
Finally, you need to know that the suicide rate amongst people is HIGHEST not only amongst those who TAKE psychiatric drugs, but is also FAR HIGHER (than the general population) amongst those who ISSUE and PRESCRIBE psychiatric drugs.
This is one of the reasons why (in NZ especially) the topic of suicide is largely kept a bit hush hush despite the fact that we have an extraordinarily high suicide rate (esp amongst young males) Of course, the drugging industry will tell you it's only a coincidence that the high level of pyschiatric drugging and the high level of suicides amongst patients and psych staff is a 'mere coincidence without probability of correlation'
Y'd have to wonder where some of these women put their brains when they come on line?
It's not as if the site wasn't laden with warnings about scammers eh?
To the TA ... why in heaven's name would you give out SO MUCH personal data to a random from the net?
ALL that you can do now is to refuse to answer ANY incoming text messages and ignore anything and everything that this individual sends your way ...
And THINK before you dish out access to your FB and Skype ... FB especially, as you give access to all your friends. How dumb are you gonna be looking when they all see you were engaged and broke it off in a day?
And, what if Mr Psycho has friend listed all of them ... and starts writing to them, pleading for their support to get you back?
Here's hoping you learn from your own self created hell, and that the fires run out sooner than later !
Distance is always going to be something that people have to consider / take into account / factor in to their thinking when it comes to forming a friendship that they might hope to develop into a romantic relationship ...
It's perhaps easier for younger people to up sticks and move to another part of a country, or even another country for that matter!
More of a challenge for those of us who looking 'second time around' though ... there are more often than not children and possibly even grandchildren he line and they also have to be considered.
Very easy to think 'I'd move anywhere to be with The One' but the reality is it's impossible to know if a person could be 'The One' unless you are able to spend a considerable amount of time with them, and of course if they are far away then 'getting in those hours' together is a challenge in itself isn't it?
Part of what makes 'dating' successful is spontaneity - the quick call to say 'Hi, you wanna do a movie tonight?' or 'I just saw XYZABC is on a the theatre and I reang, there's seats free, let's do it ???' and etc. It's also like being 'accessible / there / on hand' when the other person has a problem or needs comfort / support and a hundred other small things... not to mention the opportunity to learn more of the intimate nature of one another and to fall asleep in their arms and wake up to have them as your first sight in the morning!
Anyone who really believes distance is no object would have to be nuts really - unless they were incredibly wealthy and (probably) retired with masses of time on their hands eh?
Having said that, personally I'm a seasoned optimist and should there be an heiress who desperately scouring the world (and connectingsingles.com) for The One ... waves, jumps up and down 'Over here Miss, here I am ...'
Yes I would ... I expect she'd be a gal with considerable social skills, intelligent, considerate emotionally mature, sensitive, compassionate and assertive. She'd also likely be a great organiser and always on time!
Wonders if there's a Dating Section in the Undertakers Trade mags ???
They sure as heck ain't harmless to people ... point it an aircraft (say) disable all of it's flight computers and the aircraft falls from the sky.
Does THAT sound harmless?
Use the 'low intensity' microwave weapons for crowd control ... cook a few internal organs, or see people with metal in their body (hip replacements, screws and plates used to repair bones etc) arcing out internally
Does THAT sound harmless
If you wanna REALLY scare y'self though get informed on HAARP !
Our leaders have really gone insane in allowing all these crazy ways of killing US their populations!
This thread makes you sound DESPERATE dude and no women really responds well to desperate.
Raising issues like having been bullied in school (which, if yer 28yo was more than twenty and at very latest ten years ago) well, that's not really a good idea is it?
IF you really want to create a relationship with a sane woman then you BEGIN the process by sorting yourself out SO THAT you have the confidence to approach women and the integrity (wholeness) to deal with them fairly.
This sounds more like an advert for a carer, than an equal to relate to.
Seriously, and said kindly, YOU need to sort YOU out first ...
Is there really something so terribly wrong with dying?
Why the obsession with keeping a piece of meat alive ... what next, will The Scientists insist on injecting such microparticles into us all so that if we stop breathing they can just 'tap the injection site and release the microparticles?'
Thanks, but not for me... when it's 'time to go' I plan on stepping forth boldly and I dont want any well meaning body technician trying to cage me back in my dying body!
Seems you're labouring under the impression that the western world is governed by leaders who are concerned about democracy - as opposed to their own ego centric tax n power grabbing ?
Do you think John Key or David Shearer have YOUR best interests at heart ?
Drunk or not, it's pretty plain that this woman must have thought in advance about the metal part of the hair extensions as a weapon - and that sounds a fairly evil sort of mind to me!
To be honest, I probably wouldn't believe it was true - unless there were very clear signs (ie physicals signs in nature as opposed to BS on the TV etc)
But, if I were to be convinced it were so I think I'd join a few friends who are Krishna's disciples and join them in chanting 'Hare Krishna'
A good chant is very calming
And, I'm safe saying so as NZ is further from the TA than Aus is!
Indeed, every 'good book' in the world contains some of the same basic principle and large among those are the words of St James, ltaer popularised by James Allen 'As a Man Thinketh In His heart So He Is'
And the 'heart' here means the same as the 'heart' of a tree ... the core or centre of our being!
What we 'are' today is always the result of two things
1) whatever HAPPENED TO US in the past
2) whatever WE DECIDED THAT MEANT to each of us
I recall speaking to an American general who served in the Vietnam war... he told of three men in a trench, one of whom died when a grenade hit him. His body, taking the full force of the blast, meant that his two comrades survived.
Both men suffered the same 'actual experience of the event'
Both were offered counselling and support - yet one of the men withdrew into himself and eventually became mentally ill and confined to an asylum... no one knows what he 'decided' about the meaning of the event as he never spoke of it.
The other man was offered the same C&S and he spoke of the horror, his feelings, even his deep feelings of guilt at having survived the blast. One day he decided 'I must be alive because there is some special purpose in my life, and I must find that and do it!'
Within a year he had gained skills to teach his original trade (Carpenter/builder) and within two years he was taking young guys from a ghetto and helping them to rebuild the neighbourhood.
Sometimes a person will 'see it for themselves'
Sometimes a person 'needs a hint of possibility'
To the gent who posted 'wondering if it had been a waste ...' well, it IS a team effort and both parties have to do their bit eh?
But if you want a private conversation about drop me a line and have a chat (no this is not a pitch - as much as anything you'd be being generous to me in sharing your experience and we'd both find out what worked / hadn't worked so well or not at all!)
Prof sportsmen accept coaching as they realise they can't see the subtle nuances of their own performance. Those extra eyes from outside 'does something' for them they can't achieve themselves.
EG amateur may make progress but then plateau and fail to advance further. This is often not because they have no further talent/ability but, because while learning unaided without the benefit of a coach to observe and advise them, they 'trained in' some poor technique.
Once their attention is drawn to these they can learn how to do things differently. In the case of a person's physical body an action that has become 'trained in' over time will feel 'natural' to the person. Correcting those actions, movements, techniques may (for a while) seem difficult, unnatural - even wrong.
With 'a good coach' the two work as a team to deliver the correct outcome and the plateau is busted.
The mind works similarly to the body - bad habits or poor technique can become trained in over time.
This can result in all sorts of limiting self-beliefs about a person's own true nature, their value in society, their self worth / esteem, their regard of and ability to relate to others.
For myself from about age 20 I realised I was possessed of certain traits that were a nuisance to me - eg being painfully shy. In the first instance I 'helped myself' by getting promoted into a customer facing role - the technical knowledge and skills I possessed made that very successful. But, away from work, in social settings I couldn't rely on those skills often - it bores people if you only talk about work.
My first coaching was from an audiotape series, my second was two books by another author and I then went on to attend seminars by both. Over time I went on to staff at international events as an volunteer (I'd have to say that the experiences gained and support received were priceless)
We have a problem today with psychiatry and psychology - they have a 'name tag' for everything, they have detailed descriptions of all the traits and behaviours a person may display and that's hardly surprising as it's massive business and means every sing person can be a patient or client.
In my own capacity, working with people as a coach I'm less interested in labels and I AM very interested in 'what's happening' ie how they are experiencing life, what they can do, what they're having difficulty with.
That's much akin to a sports coach. Athlete arrives with a problem 'Hey coach, I can run a mile in 4 mins but every time I do that I end up in agony with a muscle pull'
Coach looks through eyes that 'know what good performance and technique looks like' spots a misalignment that the athlete inadvertently trained in, and works with them to train that out.
People who simply dismiss the notion of training / coaching usually end up either congratulating themselves on achieving little (compared to their true potential) or using their given or self applied diagnosis of (say) low self esteem AS IF that were a missing limb!
It isn't ... we can't grow a new lower limb (though a prosthesis may be a fabulous help) but we CAN definitely 'grow new thoughts' and 'develop new behaviours' through coaching and training.
Many people who I see have read so many books that they became confused. 'Simple techniques' can be dangerous as what works for Harry might be applied to a similar but different cause in Sally's case.
I sound ageist here, but a sports coach develops ability out of a lot of experience - takes time, so be cautious of very young people offering coaching.
p.s family and friends often helped train in those things or may have conflicting agendas such as 'If YOU get successful you might leave us to progress your career ...'
I tried that ... but no, sorry Bro, I couldn't fancy you myself! If you were the last 'other living being' on the planet I'd sooner go n find a knothole
I don't doubt people are 'genuine' ... I just wonder if they are serious about dating in the global village!
Spotted a thread elsewhere on the net and the majority of people were baulking at much over 90 minutes...
Personally, I've traveled far and wide to meet people who sounded lively, got on well with online and shared interests etc. Never set off with any sort of 'unreal expectations' about romance and as a result have a number of regular friendships (ie regular letters / skype etc) and have met, will meet in time others.
And yes, to the guy above ... it beats the hell outta telly :-)_
here, on an 'international dating site' because you can talk / flirt / play knowing full well that there's very little chance you'll ever actually meet your 'playmates' in real life?
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RE: To conquer a nation first disarm it's citizens
The first 'Mass Slaying' that came to world attention was that at Hungerford in 1987/8 and interesting that they have been happening ever since especially in the USA.It's NOT the guns that are the issue.
It's the state of mind of the PEOPLE who are taking those guns and using them.
The thing to do is to look back at such 'sea change events' and see what preceded them.
In the case of the Hungerford Massacre - that happened about a year after the introduction of Prozac, and as the number of people given that drug and others of it's genre.
It's a laudable notion to 'ease mental torment' but when one of the side effects is to eliminate the humanity that's ruled by the normal inhibitory mechanisms ... these events are what follows.
Many people have had a bad day and expressed 'murderous thoughts' but they don;t ever 'do anything' because that normal inhibitory system prevents action ... they know it would be wrong. On a lesser scale, just look at some of the stupid things people do when they have 'lessened' their inhibitions with an alcoholic drink or two!
But, feed them certain drugs and combos and that inhibition is totally removed, as well as with it the sense of 'conscience' about right / wrong.
A person on such drugs then will, having had a 'murderous thought' simply set to and find the means whereby and the method of literally 'executing their intent'
First there's the need to resolve the (prescription) drugging problem that drives these behaviours, to take away the root cause.
I'll follow this with a second post, not related to drugging, but significant to the debate as another 'vital question' to be asked is 'Who benefits and who loses by the introduction of ANY new law'