atheist consider atheism to be a religion where they want religous rights, but then when it comes to things like this, then they claim it isn't a religion (remember religion is a beleif system)
It's proactive population control. There are a number of manmade diseases at work in the world today. The idea is to give "natural selection" a nudge so that it culls the herd a lot more "effectively" than it normally would. And we ain't seen nothing yet. Prions, mycoplasma, and other almost indetectable disease agents have been developed (or enhanced) in laboratories.
Relax, we just got in a new shipment of dates today. They're being checked out by quality control now. They should be up on the shelves in a day or two.
I posted that there is no historical evidence of many of the supposed massacres and conquests of the Israelites listed in the OT and that I believe most of them never really happened. They were just myths intended to magnify the Israelites' sense of self image, and increase their nationalism.
Krimsa responded (referring specifically to the massacres listed in the OT).
"Whether they happened or not or on a much smaller scale (most likely scenario) the god of the bible ordered these atrocities. That is on the hands of the Christian faith."
Let's examine her logic. Or rather her total lack of logic.
First: She claims that modern Christians are somehow responsible for the text of the Hebrew Bible written at least 5 centuries before Christ. Text that was in no way Christian in origin.
That's illogical Krimsa.
She further implies that a God she doesn't even believe in actually said the words attributed to him by the Israelites.
That's illogical Krimsa.
She takes it one step further,
On the basis of her claim that a God she doesn't even believe in actually ordered massacres (for which there is no evidence that they ever even occurred), she lays the guilt on the Christians (who wouldn't exist until a thousand years after the time of the supposed massacres).
It's not only illogical Krimsa, its ludicrous. I'm embarassed for you.
I agree 100%. I'm a Christian. But the last thing I would want in the world would be to see Christians getting involved in government or dictating educational requirements.
Of course by the same standard, I wouldn't want people with other religions or ideological agendas to be imposing their BS on kids either. And Darwinian evolution falls into that category.
I think the theory should be taught, even in great detail, but it should be clearly presented as a theory, because that's all it is.
As for me personally I believe it is clear that species have changed over time. But Darwin's theory, which depends upon random chance for every single change, cannot account for that evolution.
The universe is not chaotic. It is orderly. We don't understand the processes by which many changes occurs. But that process is orderly and all things work together to bring it about. Intelligence and design are embedded in the very fabric of the universe.
Just as the universe came into being and is still expanding, and is accellerating in it's expansion. So too life came into being and is expanding. Nobody knows why or how either process occurs. But they are occurring.
Not exactly "stupid" when you consider that they were able to stash away millions for the coming rainy day. And that they personally would be able to put on their golden parachutes and bail out.
The crash that their lending brought on was a mechanism by which the wealth of the entire nation is being transferred into private corporate hands by means of bail-outs funded by devaluation of the currency.
The savings of the entire nation are being plundered and given to the very criminals who brought on the crash.
The real "stupid" ones are those who think that the government is really trying to bail out the ship by drilling holes through the hull.
Well, there's also: the oil, the Suez Canal, and in the face of looming food shortages, we could always eat all the sandwiches there. (sand-which-is there)
Even though tyranny and corruption now control the world. nevertheless, like sparrows who continue to live and fly and sing and lay eggs even in the midst of world wars, freedom of spirit is still alive and propogating. And one day it will conquer and fill the entire earth. Not by force of arms, but by faith and love.
Remember the initial US "advisors" in Vietnam. It went from 10,000 to 500,000 before they stopped calling them advisors.
Back in the late 60s my brother was an airman in the US airforce. One day they brought everybody in his entire division a new uniform that said "Free Congolese Air Force" and had no US insignia at all. They confiscated everybody's dogtags. The division was to be shipped off to the Congo in the guise of a private mercenary airforce not associated with the US at all.
It was yet another US invasion of a sovereign country in the making.
Fortunately, the soviet backed Congolese forces took over the landing sites and the invasion was scuttled before the troops ever left the US.
I've been curious as to why you have been so supportive to Israel.
I would have expected that, as a Native American, and an active supporter of US interests, you would consider Israel's parasitic relation toward the US, and it's genocidal and land stealing policies toward the Palestinians, as personally offensive to everything you believe in.
Could you explain why you support Israel?
I would, if I thought it would do any good.
But what's the point in getting crucified, or shot, or stoned, trying to show the truth to those who have already decided that they prefer lies.
Besides. It's not necessary to go to the wailing wall. There are plenty of people like that everywhere.
And then too, the internet is the absolute best way to speak the truth without getting shouted down by the rabble of the rabbis.
That will probably change soon. But for now it's relatively true.
If you want to go wail at the wall be my guest. But it doesn't interest me a bit.
RE: War against Christian
The absence of something doesn't constitute anything at all.Not believing in something is not the same thing as believing in nothing.
Real atheists, by your own definition, don't have a cause to preach. They certainly don't have your missionary zeal to "win the world" for unbelief.
Supposed atheists who evangelize against faith aren't really atheists at all. They just follow a god who hates being exposed to the light.