GUN CONTROL....is it a good thing (888)
toranoga: So what you are proposing is that we overturn the 2nd ammendment to the constitution.
As for the refrence to vehicles, I was merely attempting to come up with something to draw a correlation to. That being said, I was trying to wrap my brain around the logic of picking one over the other when in fact the number of deaths caused by each is roughly equal.
To take it a step farther, is it correct to assume that you would be opposed to anything whose original purpose was to maim and kill?
As for the refrence to vehicles, I was merely attempting to come up with something to draw a correlation to. That being said, I was trying to wrap my brain around the logic of picking one over the other when in fact the number of deaths caused by each is roughly equal.
To take it a step farther, is it correct to assume that you would be opposed to anything whose original purpose was to maim and kill?
well it wud be mine
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Galactic_bodhi: On the same token, no taxation without representation. We did some funny things with tea over this on this side of the pond. I think trouble is brewing in the same light again here.
Trouble is brewing in that light everywhere.
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I do, however, like Gandhi's solution to this. The salt Satyagraha was an effective non-violent maneuver in overturning tyrranical taxation in what is now India. 
vonney: Trouble is brewing in that light everywhere.
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toranoga: So what you are proposing is that we overturn the 2nd ammendment to the constitution.
As for the refrence to vehicles, I was merely attempting to come up with something to draw a correlation to. That being said, I was trying to wrap my brain around the logic of picking one over the other when in fact the number of deaths caused by each is roughly equal.
To take it a step farther, is it correct to assume that you would be opposed to anything whose original purpose was to maim and kill?
As for the refrence to vehicles, I was merely attempting to come up with something to draw a correlation to. That being said, I was trying to wrap my brain around the logic of picking one over the other when in fact the number of deaths caused by each is roughly equal.
To take it a step farther, is it correct to assume that you would be opposed to anything whose original purpose was to maim and kill?
To my mind thereis no logic of picking one over the other, I didt make the comparison,
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Galactic_bodhi: I do, however, like Gandhi's solution to this. The salt Satyagraha was an effective non-violent maneuver in overturning tyrranical taxation in what is now India.
I dont think such manouveres would be of benefit these days
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Galactic_bodhi: On the same token, no taxation without representation. We did some funny things with tea over this on this side of the pond. I think trouble is brewing in the same light again here.
I'm sending a tea bag to Obama. It's becoming "big" here. I don't think people realized what they were getting w/ the big O.
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vonney: And why do I have the feeling that that is a loaded question?
I am not suggesting anything, just trying to understand other ppls point of view.
I am not suggesting anything, just trying to understand other ppls point of view.
Ok, I will back up and unload it a little.
What you refrence is gun control. Does that mean repeal of the 2nd ammendment, gun registration (which we already have), limitation of what guns can be owned, or what?
Gun control is a very broad and all encompasing statement and I am trying to do no more than determine if you want total elimination, or control and if it is control, at what level.
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toranoga: Ok, I will back up and unload it a little.
What you refrence is gun control. Does that mean repeal of the 2nd ammendment, gun registration (which we already have), limitation of what guns can be owned, or what?
Gun control is a very broad and all encompasing statement and I am trying to do no more than determine if you want total elimination, or control and if it is control, at what level.
What you refrence is gun control. Does that mean repeal of the 2nd ammendment, gun registration (which we already have), limitation of what guns can be owned, or what?
Gun control is a very broad and all encompasing statement and I am trying to do no more than determine if you want total elimination, or control and if it is control, at what level.
I havent said I want anything other than to understand why ppl feel they have the right to carry guns? At no point do I pretend to understand the legistration in the US, I am simply asking as someone who has been reared with the knowledge that guns are to maim and kill.Please understand that I live in a Country where it is illegal to carry a gun and I just dont understand why anyone would want to.
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vonney: I havent said I want anything other than to understand why ppl feel they have the right to carry guns? At no point do I pretend to understand the legistration in the US, I am simply asking as someone who has been reared with the knowledge that guns are to maim and kill.Please understand that I live in a Country where it is illegal to carry a gun and I just dont understand why anyone would want to.
I have had firearms all my life and was taught to handle them with care and safety. Yes they are used to kill animals in hunting season, as is my bow and arrows. My knives are also used to kill and butcher game taken in hunting season. It has never really crossed my mind to use them to kill a person and even if threatened, I am not sure I could shoot to kill. However, I would very much resist any attempt by anyone to attempt to take away that right to keep and bear arms as is guaranteed by the constitution.
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toranoga: I have had firearms all my life and was taught to handle them with care and safety. Yes they are used to kill animals in hunting season, as is my bow and arrows. My knives are also used to kill and butcher game taken in hunting season. It has never really crossed my mind to use them to kill a person and even if threatened, I am not sure I could shoot to kill. However, I would very much resist any attempt by anyone to attempt to take away that right to keep and bear arms as is guaranteed by the constitution.
You see that is what I am trying to understand, why is it a persons right to own weapons that are made to kill?
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vonney: You see that is what I am trying to understand, why is it a persons right to own weapons that are made to kill?
I hope I have helped you some on this point 
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Time for bed here, I know I may have annoyed some ppl but in all honesty I am just trying to understand another point of view,I hope ppl can understand and respect mine,
Night
Night
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pointhunter: would someone tell me what ppl stands for thank you
Sorry it means people
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pointhunter: would someone tell me what ppl stands for thank you
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pointhunter: would someone tell me what ppl stands for thank you
It's a abbreveation of people.
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vonney: You see that is what I am trying to understand, why is it a persons right to own weapons that are made to kill?
If I owned a gun , I sure wouldn't shoot just anybody. But if My own instincts and will to live will come out. Rather it is a gun or a knife, or a lamp up the side of his/her head I am gonna go down fighting..
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mylifewithu: If I owned a gun , I sure wouldn't shoot just anybody. But if My own instincts and will to live will come out. Rather it is a gun or a knife, or a lamp up the side of his/her head I am gonna go down fighting..
I don't own a gun either...but will use whatever hurts the most too in best defense....
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As for the refrence to vehicles, I was merely attempting to come up with something to draw a correlation to. That being said, I was trying to wrap my brain around the logic of picking one over the other when in fact the number of deaths caused by each is roughly equal.
To take it a step farther, is it correct to assume that you would be opposed to anything whose original purpose was to maim and kill?
And why do I have the feeling that that is a loaded question?
I am not suggesting anything, just trying to understand other ppls point of view.