mylifewithu: Yes and if it wasn't guns it would be another weapon such as knives.
A knife attack every 4 minutes; 130,000 per year - but ministers still insist crime rates are falling By Matthew Hickley Last updated at 1:53 AM on 18th July 2008
Blade Britain: Knives were used in 14,000 robberies last year More than 350 people are the victim of knife assaults every day in England and Wales, the latest crime figures have revealed.
Last night a teenager in Lambeth, London, became the latest victim of the stabbing epidemic, dying in hospital after a frenzied attack.
Almost 130,000 attacks involved knives last year - equivalent to one every four minutes - according to the annual British Crime Survey.
This figure does not include the tens of thousands of assaults against under-16s. However, unlike the police records published yesterday, it does include crimes which are not reported to the authorities.
The police data revealed 22,000 serious knife assaults - including 231 attempted murders - were reported to the police last year.
There were also almost 14,000 reported robberies and more than 8,000 woundings.
As the Daily Mail revealed exclusively yesterday, the forces' data, which was gathered for the first time this year, starkly illustrated how knife crime has spread beyond the major cities into the shires.
The British Crime Survey figure of 130,000 knife attacks is substantially higher than the police's figure. This is thought to be because many victims never report being threatened with a knife - and even assaults needing hospital treatment go unrecorded.
The phenomenon of 'hidden' knife crime has led senior doctors to call for new rules making it compulsory for hospitals to record knife injuries.
The British Crime Survey, based on interviews with thousands of households across the UK, showed overall crime down 10 per cent to 10.1million offences.
Police figures, which typically capture only around half of all crime, showed a similar trend.
Shadow Home Secretary Dominic Grieve pointed out that the police figures showed violent crime up nearly 80 per cent since Labour came to power. The BCS trends were more positive.
I agree with that...because violent criminals are not going to stop being violent with the absence of guns...that is their weapon of choice right now...remove it and they will only find another way...violence resonates with the person...weapons don't make people violent....they are only a tool used to carry out their violence....
Hugz_n_Kissez: I agree with that...because violent criminals are not going to stop being violent with the absence of guns...that is their weapon of choice right now...remove it and they will only find another way...violence resonates with the person...weapons don't make people violent....they are only a tool used to carry out their violence....
Hugz_n_Kissez: I agree with that...because violent criminals are not going to stop being violent with the absence of guns...that is their weapon of choice right now...remove it and they will only find another way...violence resonates with the person...weapons don't make people violent....they are only a tool used to carry out their violence....
Take away knives criminals will use bombs, take away bombs they will use chemicals, and look at the Oklahoma city bombing should we ban fertilizer and rental trucks!??? on any given day any kindergartener could easily stab to death another student with their still legal No2 pencil!
mylifewithu: Yes and if it wasn't guns it would be another weapon such as knives.
A knife attack every 4 minutes; 130,000 per year - but ministers still insist crime rates are falling By Matthew Hickley Last updated at 1:53 AM on 18th July 2008
Blade Britain: Knives were used in 14,000 robberies last year More than 350 people are the victim of knife assaults every day in England and Wales, the latest crime figures have revealed.
Last night a teenager in Lambeth, London, became the latest victim of the stabbing epidemic, dying in hospital after a frenzied attack.
Almost 130,000 attacks involved knives last year - equivalent to one every four minutes - according to the annual British Crime Survey.
This figure does not include the tens of thousands of assaults against under-16s. However, unlike the police records published yesterday, it does include crimes which are not reported to the authorities.
The police data revealed 22,000 serious knife assaults - including 231 attempted murders - were reported to the police last year.
There were also almost 14,000 reported robberies and more than 8,000 woundings.
As the Daily Mail revealed exclusively yesterday, the forces' data, which was gathered for the first time this year, starkly illustrated how knife crime has spread beyond the major cities into the shires.
The British Crime Survey figure of 130,000 knife attacks is substantially higher than the police's figure. This is thought to be because many victims never report being threatened with a knife - and even assaults needing hospital treatment go unrecorded.
The phenomenon of 'hidden' knife crime has led senior doctors to call for new rules making it compulsory for hospitals to record knife injuries.
The British Crime Survey, based on interviews with thousands of households across the UK, showed overall crime down 10 per cent to 10.1million offences.
Police figures, which typically capture only around half of all crime, showed a similar trend.
Shadow Home Secretary Dominic Grieve pointed out that the police figures showed violent crime up nearly 80 per cent since Labour came to power. The BCS trends were more positive.
Hugz_n_Kissez: I agree with that...because violent criminals are not going to stop being violent with the absence of guns...that is their weapon of choice right now...remove it and they will only find another way...violence resonates with the person...weapons don't make people violent....they are only a tool used to carry out their violence....
How right you are....we now have a knife culture here in Scotland...and they are used with equally devastating results.... Our First Minister Jack McConnell has now put plans in place to jail offenders for a maximum of four years just for being found to be in possession of one if stopped and searched by the Police.
StressFree: Sometimes it's better to just not respond, but to reflect a bit.
I'm just trying to help Tam...you sleep in the bed you make. I know you have good intentions, but your choice of words needs a facelift at times. You are a slippery one at times...
Thanks T ...I think the words we use are more blunt because we are straight to the point Brits
Thanks for the tips.....T you know I am not slippy..you have spoken to me and I am sure you can assure the good gents on here my voice and manner go with my looks....
Chemo Monday coming.....so well that says it all....
Off course I did not repond to the abusive mails I ain't that daft
But I did respond to posts addressed to me in this thread
Crystal29: How right you are....we now have a knife culture here in Scotland...and they are used with equally devastating results.... Our First Minister Jack McConnell has now put plans in place to jail offenders for a maximum of four years just for being found to be in possession of one if stopped and searched by the Police.
Yes...see the weapon of choice just changes...the violence doesn't stop....
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mylifewithu: Yes and if it wasn't guns it would be another weapon such as knives.
A knife attack every 4 minutes; 130,000 per year - but ministers still insist crime rates are falling By Matthew Hickley Last updated at 1:53 AM on 18th July 2008
Blade Britain: Knives were used in 14,000 robberies last year More than 350 people are the victim of knife assaults every day in England and Wales, the latest crime figures have revealed.
Last night a teenager in Lambeth, London, became the latest victim of the stabbing epidemic, dying in hospital after a frenzied attack.
Almost 130,000 attacks involved knives last year - equivalent to one every four minutes - according to the annual British Crime Survey.
This figure does not include the tens of thousands of assaults against under-16s. However, unlike the police records published yesterday, it does include crimes which are not reported to the authorities.
The police data revealed 22,000 serious knife assaults - including 231 attempted murders - were reported to the police last year.
There were also almost 14,000 reported robberies and more than 8,000 woundings.
As the Daily Mail revealed exclusively yesterday, the forces' data, which was gathered for the first time this year, starkly illustrated how knife crime has spread beyond the major cities into the shires.
The British Crime Survey figure of 130,000 knife attacks is substantially higher than the police's figure. This is thought to be because many victims never report being threatened with a knife - and even assaults needing hospital treatment go unrecorded.
The phenomenon of 'hidden' knife crime has led senior doctors to call for new rules making it compulsory for hospitals to record knife injuries.
The British Crime Survey, based on interviews with thousands of households across the UK, showed overall crime down 10 per cent to 10.1million offences.
Police figures, which typically capture only around half of all crime, showed a similar trend.
Shadow Home Secretary Dominic Grieve pointed out that the police figures showed violent crime up nearly 80 per cent since Labour came to power. The BCS trends were more positive.
When the last H-bomb has done it's stuff And stilled for good the giegercounter's voice When there's nothing left but just a few of us, Then will come the moment of my dreadful choice:
Invent the peaceful wheel? Oh dear me, no! Let those who would assauge the general woe. I plan to freeze my neighbors to the bone and marrow By re-inventing the bow and arrow.
Hugz_n_Kissez: Yep and so violent criminals...you take away knives and it will be something else... They don't all of a sudden stop becoming violent because their weapon of choice is gone...
I am still glad we dont allow just anyone to own guns in this country....I work at Glasgow Airport and Im sure you all remember the dreadful attack on us last summer....since then our airport Police have been armed with submachine guns...at first it made my blood run cold to see this.....now I am used to seeing it......and I suppose it makes me feel safer.....a sad sign of the times ......
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A knife attack every 4 minutes; 130,000 per year - but ministers still insist crime rates are falling
By Matthew Hickley
Last updated at 1:53 AM on 18th July 2008
Blade Britain: Knives were used in 14,000 robberies last year
More than 350 people are the victim of knife assaults every day in England and Wales, the latest crime figures have revealed.
Last night a teenager in Lambeth, London, became the latest victim of the stabbing epidemic, dying in hospital after a frenzied attack.
Almost 130,000 attacks involved knives last year - equivalent to one every four minutes - according to the annual British Crime Survey.
This figure does not include the tens of thousands of assaults against under-16s. However, unlike the police records published yesterday, it does include crimes which are not reported to the authorities.
The police data revealed 22,000 serious knife assaults - including 231 attempted murders - were reported to the police last year.
There were also almost 14,000 reported robberies and more than 8,000 woundings.
As the Daily Mail revealed exclusively yesterday, the forces' data, which was gathered for the first time this year, starkly illustrated how knife crime has spread beyond the major cities into the shires.
The British Crime Survey figure of 130,000 knife attacks is substantially higher than the police's figure. This is thought to be because many victims never report being threatened with a knife - and even assaults needing hospital treatment go unrecorded.
The phenomenon of 'hidden' knife crime has led senior doctors to call for new rules making it compulsory for hospitals to record knife injuries.
The British Crime Survey, based on interviews with thousands of households across the UK, showed overall crime down 10 per cent to 10.1million offences.
Police figures, which typically capture only around half of all crime, showed a similar trend.
Shadow Home Secretary Dominic Grieve pointed out that the police figures showed violent crime up nearly 80 per cent since Labour came to power. The BCS trends were more positive.
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I agree with that...because violent criminals are not going to stop being violent with the absence of guns...that is their weapon of choice right now...remove it and they will only find another way...violence resonates with the person...weapons don't make people violent....they are only a tool used to carry out their violence....