GUN CONTROL....is it a good thing (888)
Tamarinsomewhere, Lothian, Scotland UK173 Threads 1 Polls 3,267 Postsjessejess47: Tam that is simply not true now
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petalbabe: I know this is slightly off-topic but it seems to being increasingly included in this discussion, so I wanted to post.
I can totally understand why certain citizens of the US do not learn another language; they have a delightful mixture of immigrants that allows them to listen and live with other cultures on their own doorstep. I can totally understand why alot of US citizens have not travelled beyond the borders of the USA. Its a huge, huge country, full of diverse sights and experiences, and is far, far more culture-mixed than, for example, England. England is so close to Europe, that it is almost not considered "going abroad" to travel to France, or Spain or suchlike. It does not make Europeans more "wordly" or widely travelled than Americans. It is simple easier, and cheaper to travel to other parts of Europe.
To generalise, and say that Americans are not interested in other countries, or are unworldly is wrong. I find Ireland extremely insular at times, and I also know of English citizens with the same attitude. I know people who have lived in England (or Ireland) all their lives, and STILL have not travelled out of either small country.
I think it is uncalled for to make sweeping generalisations on other country's citizens, and I, for one, would never do it. It smacks of xenaphobia.
I have not commented on the Gun Crime topic, as I admit I do not know about it to contributed constructively, so I will leave that to the rest of you.
I simply found it uncomfortable to read comments being made about other country's citizens.
Rant over..
I can totally understand why certain citizens of the US do not learn another language; they have a delightful mixture of immigrants that allows them to listen and live with other cultures on their own doorstep. I can totally understand why alot of US citizens have not travelled beyond the borders of the USA. Its a huge, huge country, full of diverse sights and experiences, and is far, far more culture-mixed than, for example, England. England is so close to Europe, that it is almost not considered "going abroad" to travel to France, or Spain or suchlike. It does not make Europeans more "wordly" or widely travelled than Americans. It is simple easier, and cheaper to travel to other parts of Europe.
To generalise, and say that Americans are not interested in other countries, or are unworldly is wrong. I find Ireland extremely insular at times, and I also know of English citizens with the same attitude. I know people who have lived in England (or Ireland) all their lives, and STILL have not travelled out of either small country.
I think it is uncalled for to make sweeping generalisations on other country's citizens, and I, for one, would never do it. It smacks of xenaphobia.
I have not commented on the Gun Crime topic, as I admit I do not know about it to contributed constructively, so I will leave that to the rest of you.
I simply found it uncomfortable to read comments being made about other country's citizens.
Rant over..
Hi ya Petal. Not really sure exactly why you quoted me here. Everything I've written has been based on my personal experience, naturally, and people I have met here and abroad. Could you clarify please? Thanks!------ This thread is Archived ------
you said guns have only one use and that is to kill that is not true
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jessejess47: you said guns have only one use and that is to kill that is not true
If you read my earlier post I stated that my son and I skeet shoot , this is a sport that kills nothing, we enjoy it , just as we do fishing 
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woody636: Hi ya Petal. Not really sure exactly why you quoted me here. Everything I've written has been based on my personal experience, naturally, and people I have met here and abroad. Could you clarify please? Thanks!
Hi, Woody!
Just because I agreed with your post and you were the first post I saw, to quote!
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jessejess47: you said guns have only one use and that is to kill that is not true
Well as far as I am aware when you fire a bullet from a gun it is to kill or injure....
Guns are to harm and kill....
Your arguement does not make sense..
Have you seen someone with parts of them blown away and a big hole in them because they have been shot....
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Tamarin: Well as far as I am aware when you fire a bullet from a gun it is to kill or injure....
Guns are to harm and kill....
Your arguement does not make sense..
Have you seen someone with parts of them blown away and a big hole in them because they have been shot....
Tam have you read my post yetGuns are to harm and kill....
Your arguement does not make sense..
Have you seen someone with parts of them blown away and a big hole in them because they have been shot....
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jessejess47: If you read my earlier post I stated that my son and I skeet shoot , this is a sport that kills nothing, we enjoy it , just as we do fishing
here you go------ This thread is Archived ------
jlw45: oh well, you know me....just another ignorant american
You are not ignorant and have your right to your opinions but please discuss and debate in a civil manner and not attack...
It helps to use facts to....
Treat me as a equal and I will do the same to you...do not disrespect me because I am a female and from another country...
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Tamarin: Well as far as I am aware when you fire a bullet from a gun it is to kill or injure....
Guns are to harm and kill....
Your arguement does not make sense..
Have you seen someone with parts of them blown away and a big hole in them because they have been shot....
You're in dire need to revise some of those Ideas.Guns are to harm and kill....
Your arguement does not make sense..
Have you seen someone with parts of them blown away and a big hole in them because they have been shot....
I have never fired a Shot at anyone in Anger.
I would if the necessity arose!
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jessejess47: NO,it does not.I own a few guns, not many, one 20 GA.youth shotgun,one 20 GA.22 over and under,somewhat rare gun,12 GA, pump, and a 22 ,14 shot semi-auto, I dont hunt, but I did when I was younger, however my son and I really enjoy skeet shooting. It is just good times for us to be together ,father and son.If you take guns away from the people what does anyone think this will do, stop the criminals from having them I think not. But I do not see why anyone needs these auto assault weapons, unless you plan on a few drive by shootings.I think we may need to address this ,but to ban firearms all together I am not so for that.
here is the first post I wrote------ This thread is Archived ------
I haven't killed anything in 20 years, the last time I went deer-hunting. Let me just say that killing is not all bad. I was camping once here in Oregon, when the radio announced that a man-eating cougar was loose in the area, and had already killed 2 children.
Never saw it, but was glad I had my Ruger Ranch Rifle just in case.
So Tam, had I not had my rifle, was I supposed to negotiate with the Puma, or maybe feed it my first born as an appeasement?
The strength of an individual comes not from the act, but from the ability to act. You intend to take away my ability. I will not allow that.
It's all well and good to talk about gun control in a country that no longer has wilderness. Let me introduce you to my friend, Mr. Grizzly, and you can both have a nice long chat.
Never saw it, but was glad I had my Ruger Ranch Rifle just in case.
So Tam, had I not had my rifle, was I supposed to negotiate with the Puma, or maybe feed it my first born as an appeasement?
The strength of an individual comes not from the act, but from the ability to act. You intend to take away my ability. I will not allow that.
It's all well and good to talk about gun control in a country that no longer has wilderness. Let me introduce you to my friend, Mr. Grizzly, and you can both have a nice long chat.
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Tamarin: You are not ignorant and have your right to your opinions but please discuss and debate in a civil manner and not attack...
It helps to use facts to....
Treat me as a equal and I will do the same to you...do not disrespect me because I am a female and from another country...
It helps to use facts to....
Treat me as a equal and I will do the same to you...do not disrespect me because I am a female and from another country...
Hang on a minute, Tam! You have disrespected the American way of life on here, called their systems hypocritical and various other things as far as I can see in this thread.
If you want people to "discuss and debate in a civil manner and not attack" you also have to follow that creed, dont you think? Cant see how it relates to you being a female either..
The "pretty little brain" comment Im sure was purely because feelings are beginning to run high on this thread, which is understandable, and you yourself are also obviously passionate in your beliefs..
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jessejess47: NO,it does not.I own a few guns, not many, one 20 GA.youth shotgun,one 20 GA.22 over and under,somewhat rare gun,12 GA, pump, and a 22 ,14 shot semi-auto, I dont hunt, but I did when I was younger, however my son and I really enjoy skeet shooting. It is just good times for us to be together ,father and son.If you take guns away from the people what does anyone think this will do, stop the criminals from having them I think not. But I do not see why anyone needs these auto assault weapons, unless you plan on a few drive by shootings.I think we may need to address this ,but to ban firearms all together I am not so for that.
[/I agree with your post Jessee. I am not against your sport of skeet shooting with your son or anyone who hunts for deer, elk, rabbits, etc. I am interested in how to solve the problem of criminals getting guns. I don't have a suggestion how to do it. That's why I wrote the thread.
I wasn't looking for people to defend why they have guns.
I'm looking for a suggestion how to take them out of the hands of criminals.
Someone suggested that we should teach children when they are young what the consequences are if they break the law. Good idea.
A few years ago there was a program that took a group of teenagers to a prison so they could see what their life would be like if they killed someone. All of the prisoners told the kids they shouldn't deal with guns, that their life would be hell if they are incarcerated.
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[/I agree with your post Jessee. I am not against your sport of skeet shooting with your son or anyone who hunts for deer, elk, rabbits, etc. I am interested in how to solve the problem of criminals getting guns. I don't have a suggestion how to do it. That's why I wrote the thread.
I wasn't looking for people to defend why they have guns.
I'm looking for a suggestion how to take them out of the hands of criminals.
Someone suggested that we should teach children when they are young what the consequences are if they break the law. Good idea.
A few years ago there was a program that took a group of teenagers to a prison so they could see what their life would be like if they killed someone. All of the prisoners told the kids they shouldn't deal with guns, that their life would be hell if they are incarcerated.
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Conrad73: You're in dire need to revise some of those Ideas.
I have never fired a Shot at anyone in Anger.
I would if the necessity arose!
I have never fired a Shot at anyone in Anger.
I would if the necessity arose!
I see exactly what you are saying Conrad and do not need to revise my views and opinions because whilst many use guns to hunt ....which is a bullet being fired into an animal to kill it...
I have seen first hand what a bullet can cause.....
I know that I could not fire a gun but that is just me....
I do know how to shoot and use a gun but will never do so....
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Tamarin: Well as far as I am aware when you fire a bullet from a gun it is to kill or injure....
Guns are to harm and kill....
Your arguement does not make sense..
Have you seen someone with parts of them blown away and a big hole in them because they have been shot....
yes I have.but it was not the gun that did it it was the people that did itGuns are to harm and kill....
Your arguement does not make sense..
Have you seen someone with parts of them blown away and a big hole in them because they have been shot....
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The only way you will ever get them out of criminal hands is to target the source and that's the black market and the illegal gun runners...and that's it...otherwise there will always be guns available on every street corner....
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petalbabe: Hang on a minute, Tam! You have disrespected the American way of life on here, called their systems hypocritical and various other things as far as I can see in this thread.
If you want people to "discuss and debate in a civil manner and not attack" you also have to follow that creed, dont you think? Cant see how it relates to you being a female either..
The "pretty little brain" comment Im sure was purely because feelings are beginning to run high on this thread, which is understandable, and you yourself are also obviously passionate in your beliefs..
If you want people to "discuss and debate in a civil manner and not attack" you also have to follow that creed, dont you think? Cant see how it relates to you being a female either..
The "pretty little brain" comment Im sure was purely because feelings are beginning to run high on this thread, which is understandable, and you yourself are also obviously passionate in your beliefs..
This post is a personnel attack towards me Petal and I will not go there....
This thread is about Gun control in America....
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Snuggs09: jessejess47: NO,it does not.I own a few guns, not many, one 20 GA.youth shotgun,one 20 GA.22 over and under,somewhat rare gun,12 GA, pump, and a 22 ,14 shot semi-auto, I dont hunt, but I did when I was younger, however my son and I really enjoy skeet shooting. It is just good times for us to be together ,father and son.If you take guns away from the people what does anyone think this will do, stop the criminals from having them I think not. But I do not see why anyone needs these auto assault weapons, unless you plan on a few drive by shootings.I think we may need to address this ,but to ban firearms all together I am not so for that.
[/I agree with your post Jessee. I am not against your sport of skeet shooting with your son or anyone who hunts for deer, elk, rabbits, etc. I am interested in how to solve the problem of criminals getting guns. I don't have a suggestion how to do it. That's why I wrote the thread.
I wasn't looking for people to defend why they have guns.
I'm looking for a suggestion how to take them out of the hands of criminals.
Someone suggested that we should teach children when they are young what the consequences are if they break the law. Good idea.
A few years ago there was a program that took a group of teenagers to a prison so they could see what their life would be like if they killed someone. All of the prisoners told the kids they shouldn't deal with guns, that their life would be hell if they are incarcerated.
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you never will take them from criminals snugs as long as someone is willing to buy someone will sell same as drugs or anything for that matter[/I agree with your post Jessee. I am not against your sport of skeet shooting with your son or anyone who hunts for deer, elk, rabbits, etc. I am interested in how to solve the problem of criminals getting guns. I don't have a suggestion how to do it. That's why I wrote the thread.
I wasn't looking for people to defend why they have guns.
I'm looking for a suggestion how to take them out of the hands of criminals.
Someone suggested that we should teach children when they are young what the consequences are if they break the law. Good idea.
A few years ago there was a program that took a group of teenagers to a prison so they could see what their life would be like if they killed someone. All of the prisoners told the kids they shouldn't deal with guns, that their life would be hell if they are incarcerated.
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Tamarin: No she used her fact and views with which you agreed with...
Facts can be interpretted in many different ways....go and read about Gun sales from the states and Child soldiers in Africa etc and then come back and tell me gun laws should not be tightened up....
Come back with a healthy, well rounded, balanced arguement sir that we can debate....
Facts can be interpretted in many different ways....go and read about Gun sales from the states and Child soldiers in Africa etc and then come back and tell me gun laws should not be tightened up....
Come back with a healthy, well rounded, balanced arguement sir that we can debate....
France...China...Russia...Do you think their are send Ice cream to Africa.....
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