GUN CONTROL....is it a good thing (888)
don't you think if anyone could keep the guns away from crimimals they would the only thing they would do now is take them away from law abiding people no thank you that is all for me on this matter hope we can still be friends 
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jessejess47: that just it snugs you can't keep them out of the criminals hands, soooo if they have guns why in the world would you think we should have them.... this is just getting silly now
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Snuggs09: Very good point. I don't know what I would do. I would have a cell phone to call the police. I would also go out the window. All I need to do is get away from him/her so that I am not in their way to steal and take what they want. They didn't come there to kill me....they just want my possessions and my possessions aren't important enough to kill someone.
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jessejess47: that just it snugs you can't keep them out of the criminals hands, soooo if they have guns why in the world would you think we should have them.... this is just getting silly now
Little confusing Jesse. I'm tempted to say why can't I keep them out of the hands of criminals but I know you will refer to black marketing of gun sales. But don't you think there has to be a way to even slow it down.
Should it start at home with young children showing them that if they get in trouble with guns they will go to prison. Maybe instead of showing them how to handle a gun, maybe we should show them how to get a good education, stay in school. I think the record speaks for itself that a good number of criminals quit school and resorted to crime when they couldn't get a job.
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Snuggs09: Very good point. I don't know what I would do. I would have a cell phone to call the police. I would also go out the window. All I need to do is get away from him/her so that I am not in their way to steal and take what they want. They didn't come there to kill me....they just want my possessions and my possessions aren't important enough to kill someone.
I wouldn't shoot someone over material things either cause I can always replace them.... but I would grab anything I could lay my hands on to defend mine and my families life.
Another point is what if you didn't have your cell phone up stairs with you or excess to any phone at the time this break-in occurred?
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Snuggs09: I wasn't able to get stay in the thread yesterday and just got back into it now to see what people wrote. I can't belive how some of you think.
What gives you the right to end a life? I'm sure you have a fascinating answer. I'd like to hear it.
What gives you the right to end a life? I'm sure you have a fascinating answer. I'd like to hear it.
I did I told you how the law reads. The Law Reads: A person has the right to defend themselves. A person may use deadly force IF they fear for their life or to protect another from serious harm.
It is in the Penal Code. I am a former Texas Peace officer. I do no what I am talking about. If you READ my post you may understand that deadly force can be used against deadly Force in the act of a crime.
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pointhunter: don't you think if anyone could keep the guns away from crimimals they would the only thing they would do now is take them away from law abiding people no thank you that is all for me on this matter hope we can still be friends
No, they wouldn't take them away from you because you have the right to bear arms.
YOU aren't going to committ a crime. None of you on here who want to keep your guns are going to committ a crime.
But the potential is there that a criminal will steal your gun to committ a crime. .....
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Snuggs09: Little confusing Jesse. I'm tempted to say why can't I keep them out of the hands of criminals but I know you will refer to black marketing of gun sales. But don't you think there has to be a way to even slow it down.
Should it start at home with young children showing them that if they get in trouble with guns they will go to prison. Maybe instead of showing them how to handle a gun, maybe we should show them how to get a good education, stay in school. I think the record speaks for itself that a good number of criminals quit school and resorted to crime when they couldn't get a job.
We learned how to handle Firearms AND get an Education.Should it start at home with young children showing them that if they get in trouble with guns they will go to prison. Maybe instead of showing them how to handle a gun, maybe we should show them how to get a good education, stay in school. I think the record speaks for itself that a good number of criminals quit school and resorted to crime when they couldn't get a job.
Today's Children that get in trouble with Firearms are getting neither!
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Snuggs09: No, they wouldn't take them away from you because you have the right to bear arms.
YOU aren't going to committ a crime. None of you on here who want to keep your guns are going to committ a crime.
But the potential is there that a criminal will steal your gun to committ a crime. .....
So you would punish People on a "POTENTIAL"?YOU aren't going to committ a crime. None of you on here who want to keep your guns are going to committ a crime.
But the potential is there that a criminal will steal your gun to committ a crime. .....
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Snuggs09: Little confusing Jesse. I'm tempted to say why can't I keep them out of the hands of criminals but I know you will refer to black marketing of gun sales. But don't you think there has to be a way to even slow it down.
Should it start at home with young children showing them that if they get in trouble with guns they will go to prison. Maybe instead of showing them how to handle a gun, maybe we should show them how to get a good education, stay in school. I think the record speaks for itself that a good number of criminals quit school and resorted to crime when they couldn't get a job.
See the problem here lies in that you are saying ,because a young person is taught to use a firearm correctly they will then drop out of school ,steal a gun , and commit crimes, why can't they be taught both ,as my son has?Should it start at home with young children showing them that if they get in trouble with guns they will go to prison. Maybe instead of showing them how to handle a gun, maybe we should show them how to get a good education, stay in school. I think the record speaks for itself that a good number of criminals quit school and resorted to crime when they couldn't get a job.
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I am in the library. It is a Saturday afternoon and they are closing the library at 2:30 EST which means I will no longer be able to reply to you today. I am finished with this thread and will not be going back in it again.
You are entitled to your opinion as I am to mine. I have lived 66 years in a drug infested city without carrying a gun or owning a gun.
I choose to let law enforcement agencies and the legal system to take care of any harm that may come my way. Call it naive if you want, but it's my choice and that's what America is all about.
You are entitled to your opinion as I am to mine. I have lived 66 years in a drug infested city without carrying a gun or owning a gun.
I choose to let law enforcement agencies and the legal system to take care of any harm that may come my way. Call it naive if you want, but it's my choice and that's what America is all about.
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Conrad73: You really think they only want the Silverware.Those Animals will torture you,until they're sure that they've got everything that ain't nailed down in your house,and then,as a Reward,they gonna kill you!
And in Case you want to know what it feels like when a Bullet Zips into your Body on one Side,and the Zips out of your Body on the opposite Side,just ask me,I'll let you know.
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somechick: I'm not trying to argue with you and sorry snuggs for all my ifs but not everyone is always where there phones are. I doubt very much that if someone's going to break into someones home that they're going to let that person know ahead of time so you can be prepared to grab something to defend oneself or be near a phone.If a district attorney asked me in court what was my reason for shooting that person I would tell them that I intended to shoot to kill and defend myself then my law inforement took so long to arrive at my home.
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Conrad73: And in Case you want to know what it feels like when a Bullet Zips into your Body on one Side,and the Zips out of your Body on the opposite Side,just ask me,I'll let you know.
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somechick: I'm not trying to argue with you and sorry snuggs for all my ifs but not everyone is always where there phones are. I doubt very much that if someone's going to break into someones home that they're going to let that person know ahead of time so you can be prepared to grab something to defend oneself or be near a phone.If a district attorney asked me in court what was my reason for shooting that person I would tell them that I intended to shoot to kill and defend myself then my law inforement took so long to arrive at my home.
I'm sorry to tell you, that saying you "shot the person to kill them" is going to be a problem....but that's another thread.
I don't think that you're arguing with me. You have been polite and respectful....we just don't agree....and that's okay with me. I mentioned that they could just take the silver and Conrad found it necessary to be condescening again. "Silver" was a general comment for whatever they want.
I am always prepared with a phone. Girl Scout motto...be prepared.
Gotta go.
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Snuggs09: I'm sorry to tell you, that saying you "shot the person to kill them" is going to be a problem....but that's another thread.
I don't think that you're arguing with me. You have been polite and respectful....we just don't agree....and that's okay with me. I mentioned that they could just take the silver and Conrad found it necessary to be condescening again. "Silver" was a general comment for whatever they want.
I am always prepared with a phone. Girl Scout motto...be prepared.
Gotta go.
Let's just say I was on the receiving end of some of these Animal's attention!I don't think that you're arguing with me. You have been polite and respectful....we just don't agree....and that's okay with me. I mentioned that they could just take the silver and Conrad found it necessary to be condescening again. "Silver" was a general comment for whatever they want.
I am always prepared with a phone. Girl Scout motto...be prepared.
Gotta go.
If anyone is blowing Hot Air,it sure ain't me.
I can afford to be condescending,I have been there,you apparently,judging from your posts,have not!
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Snuggs09: Ya see how Tam said if someone broke into the house she would leave and take the kids out of the dangerous environment.
Aren't we all told that if we get carjacked, we should just let them take the car.
Of if we are approached to steal our purses or wallet, we should just let them take it.
Would you really kill someone if they wanted to steal your wallet or your car?
Aren't we all told that if we get carjacked, we should just let them take the car.
Of if we are approached to steal our purses or wallet, we should just let them take it.
Would you really kill someone if they wanted to steal your wallet or your car?
This is a good point you raise Snuggs.
I am against civilians at all to have the right to hold a firearm, here or in any oountry.
That is the law, I can do nothing about it. I choose not to hold a gun, simply because I have never been exposed or raised in that environment.
I have managed all of my adult life to keep myself and my children safe, if a person broke into my house, I would tell them to take everything, as long as they did not harm me or my family.
If a person stops me in the street, tries to rob me of my wallet or purse, I am going to give it to them.
Same with my car, I am going to hand it over. I would not prevent a person from taking those inanimate objects.
It is OUR responsibility to keep ourselves safe, however, a person that chooses to hold a firearm, with a licence, is entirely up to them and if within the guidelines of the law, then I have no problems with that. I am neither for or against it. I choose not to hold one. I have no reason to hold one, I am not terrified so much that I am going to need one. It just does not enter my sphere.
Correct me if I am wrong, but in the UK, I do believe that the gun laws state a gun has to be locked away, there has to be a reason on the licence such as shooting or farming, I am unclear, same in the US, I know little about gun laws, but I am learning lots from this thread.
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Not against civilians...
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Snuggs09: That's right, "to uphold the law", NOT to enforce it.
For all those people asking: What gives you the right to take a life???
Nobody has the right to take a life...BUT everyone has the right of self-defense....and if in that process a life is lost...the law protects the person defending themselves....that's with a gun...fists or whatever else is needed to protect oneself...So yes there is a right there...and that's to be safe from harm....
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Finally!!! Jesse gave a suggestion.