GUN CONTROL....is it a good thing ( Archived) (888)

Mar 20, 2009 8:57 AM CST GUN CONTROL....is it a good thing
druidess6308
druidess6308druidess6308Aliquippa, Pennsylvania USA79 Threads 13,695 Posts
Big_John: I have guns. I plan on keeping my guns. I used guns when I fought for this country. I will vote any person out of office who attempts to take my guns from me.
thumbs up thumbs up thumbs up Right there with you, John.
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Mar 20, 2009 8:58 AM CST GUN CONTROL....is it a good thing
Snuggs09
Snuggs09Snuggs09Somewhere, New Jersey USA128 Threads 1 Polls 2,615 Posts
druidess6308: It was written for that purpose, and because our forefathers were wise men who studied history and knew about revolutions and monarchs/dictators. They wrote it for us to be able to protect ourselves in every way, and against our government if necessary. Do some research on the internet, and read the writings of the men who wrote our Constitution. Their debates are recorded and preserved.

You're writing about a subject you haven't studied. I have.


You don't need to get testy Dru.

You and other keep saying the 2nd Amendment is meant to protect us from our government.

I asked, but no one answered.... if our government tried to become a dictatorship, are you and many others going to pack up your guns and go to Washington and shoot everyone in the Capitol?
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Mar 20, 2009 9:00 AM CST GUN CONTROL....is it a good thing
CaptainCrunch
CaptainCrunchCaptainCrunchHenderson, Kentucky USA4 Threads 1 Polls 68 Posts
Snuggs09: The Constitution of the United States was adopted in 1787. Our forefathers wrote the Second Amendment to the Constitution to empower homesteaders the right to protect their family from anyone who would cause them harm. The western part of the United States was wild and still being developed. Indians or even other landowners would try to run you off your property. In 1787 there weren’t local police departments, the FBI or any type of law enforcement agency. A family had to have a gun to protect themselves.

It is now 2009 and the Second Amendment still gives citizens of the United States the right to bear arms “in case someone intends to commit robbery in their home or any other type of crime”. People who want a gun in their home, or on their person, use the Second Amendment as an excuse to own a weapon.

We don’t have to worry about the Indians attacking our land anymore. Hunters have guns for the sport of hunting and this is not in question. The National Rifle Association states if you want a gun, you should have it. They are very fond of the Second Amendment.

The Constitution has been amended 27 times. It is time to change it again? Should we amend the Second Amendment so that people do use it as an excuse to own a gun. Laws have been changed requiring people to fill out applications for permission to own a gun but it hasn’t deterred the amount of crime. It’s easy to own a gun these days. If the Second Amended was changed people who owned guns, just for the sake of having it, wouldn’t be protected by the Constitution.

Here’s a thought. If we can’t control who owns guns, maybe we can control the bullets….
Are you for real lady? If you outlaw guns only the outlaws will have them. Just ask the people that have had their guns taken away and ask them how much their crime has increased. The Government will get my weapons when they pry them from my cold dead hands. You should really grow up and join the real world and not the fantasy one you are wanting.
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Mar 20, 2009 9:00 AM CST GUN CONTROL....is it a good thing
soulmateTWS
soulmateTWSsoulmateTWSHappy in, Alabama USA8 Threads 4,935 Posts
The_Kansan: With all due respect, I submit that if there were no guns then the evening news would be full of reports of stabbings, clubbings, stranglings, etc... A can of soda or bar of soap in the toe of a sock can be a devastatingly effective weapon - Do we ban those next?

Simple fact is that guns are not the problem with today's society. People are the problem with today's society. Perhaps if more time had been spent teaching children right from wrong and how to co-exist peacefully with others and less time tilting at windmills such as gun-control, we'd have no need for this discussion...


Don's post pretty much sums up how I feel about this subject...
Yes, I'm a gun owner...as a matter of fact, I own numerous hand guns...my husband own one hand gun,(of which I bought for him), plus he owns several shot guns and a rifle or two.
Do we plan on starting a war, or killing someone...nope, unless they invade my house and threaten our family...
Guns don't kill people...People kill people.
A gun is an inanimate object...It's the person that's pressing the trigger that causes the weapon to fire...hmmm
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Mar 20, 2009 9:02 AM CST GUN CONTROL....is it a good thing
soulmateTWS
soulmateTWSsoulmateTWSHappy in, Alabama USA8 Threads 4,935 Posts
CaptainCrunch: You should really grow up and join the real world and not the fantasy one you are wanting.




HHhhhmmmmmmm....Something to ponder on....




conversing conversing conversing
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Mar 20, 2009 9:04 AM CST GUN CONTROL....is it a good thing
gooddogman
gooddogmangooddogmanLeesburg, Florida USA23 Threads 1,028 Posts
druidess6308: Awesome! And thank you!

I've studied with a trainer who taught me defense shooting, and how to combine my martial arts training with drawing my firearm to make sure it isn't taken from me if I need to use it, and improved my point and shoot with a 2" j-frame pistol to the point where I have a very quick, smooth draw and a heart/head double tap at 14 ft. (We didn't practice further away because that's the farthest distance normally for defense shooting.)


I have 5 daughters and they all know how to use a gun for hunting or protection.. 1 is a State Troupper I have people ask if I worry... Answer No she carries a Glock....I would worry more if she was a clerk in a convinence store... Thank you for your Good info on this subject...applause
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Mar 20, 2009 9:06 AM CST GUN CONTROL....is it a good thing
Snuggs09
Snuggs09Snuggs09Somewhere, New Jersey USA128 Threads 1 Polls 2,615 Posts
CaptainCrunch: Are you for real lady? If you outlaw guns only the outlaws will have them. Just ask the people that have had their guns taken away and ask them how much their crime has increased. The Government will get my weapons when they pry them from my cold dead hands. You should really grow up and join the real world and not the fantasy one you are wanting.


YOU should learn to be polite in expressing your opinion and not condemning someone who doesn't agree with you.wave
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Mar 20, 2009 9:08 AM CST GUN CONTROL....is it a good thing
Snuggs09
Snuggs09Snuggs09Somewhere, New Jersey USA128 Threads 1 Polls 2,615 Posts
gooddogman: Never point a gun at a person. Even kidding


Okay, I take it back.flower
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Mar 20, 2009 9:08 AM CST GUN CONTROL....is it a good thing
sassy49senior
sassy49seniorsassy49seniorItty Bitty, Nebraska USA274 Threads 4,632 Posts

I have been around guns since I married at the age of 17.
My husband taught me all I needed to know. Our kids were
brought up with guns and were also taught at a young age
how to use them with respect. We also taught them to never
even point a toy gun at a person. Now my sons have my
rifle and pistol as I can not have them in my apartment.
However, even though I have not shot one for about 2 years
now I still remember how. In our area because we are so
rural we have gun and tractor safety classes for teens.
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Mar 20, 2009 9:09 AM CST GUN CONTROL....is it a good thing
Snuggs09: You don't need to get testy Dru.

You and other keep saying the 2nd Amendment is meant to protect us from our government.

I asked, but no one answered.... if our government tried to become a dictatorship, are you and many others going to pack up your guns and go to Washington and shoot everyone in the Capitol?
That is the General Idea,if need be!
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Mar 20, 2009 9:09 AM CST GUN CONTROL....is it a good thing
druidess6308
druidess6308druidess6308Aliquippa, Pennsylvania USA79 Threads 13,695 Posts
Snuggs09: You don't need to get testy Dru.

You and other keep saying the 2nd Amendment is meant to protect us from our government.

I asked, but no one answered.... if our government tried to become a dictatorship, are you and many others going to pack up your guns and go to Washington and shoot everyone in the Capitol?


I wasn't getting testy, just pointing out that you haven't done your research, and that it's a subject I have researched and read on, and suggesting you do further research. No need to get defensive, either. bouquet

I would do what it took to protect my rights. If our government tried to become a dictatorship, I would join the citizen's militia that would form, and those of our military who would fight against it. We would have civil war again.

Would I shoot everyone in the Capitol? No, I'm not deranged. I wouldn't take out innocent citizens, nor those who were trying to defend our rights.

Would I march against the Capitol to defend those rights if they were endangered? Absolutely. I've been willing to be a soldier before, I would be again as a citizen to overthrow a dictator.
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Mar 20, 2009 9:12 AM CST GUN CONTROL....is it a good thing
Snuggs09
Snuggs09Snuggs09Somewhere, New Jersey USA128 Threads 1 Polls 2,615 Posts
Conrad73: That is the General Idea,if need be!


And that's the problem. People think everything should be handled with violence. I guess you made my point Conrad.handshake
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Mar 20, 2009 9:15 AM CST GUN CONTROL....is it a good thing
druidess6308
druidess6308druidess6308Aliquippa, Pennsylvania USA79 Threads 13,695 Posts
Conrad73: That is the General Idea,if need be!


Thank you, Conrad. You're correct...that was the general idea when the 2nd Amendment was written, and still the general idea of it today. thumbs up
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Mar 20, 2009 9:18 AM CST GUN CONTROL....is it a good thing
druidess6308
druidess6308druidess6308Aliquippa, Pennsylvania USA79 Threads 13,695 Posts
Snuggs09: And that's the problem. People think everything should be handled with violence. I guess you made my point Conrad.


Snuggs, if our government tries to take all of our rights away and make this country into a dictatorship, couched nicely in terms of being for our own good and protection of course, then the only way we will have to protect ourselves from that is another revolutionary war. We can't do that if our rights are so restricted that it's too difficult for law-abiding citizens to own firearms...and our government knows it, so it's the first step that they would take. Knowing this is why people like me are prepared to defend that right to the death, if necessary. It's to protect people like you, too.

bouquet
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Mar 20, 2009 9:20 AM CST GUN CONTROL....is it a good thing
Tamarin
TamarinTamarinsomewhere, Lothian, Scotland UK173 Threads 1 Polls 3,267 Posts
Yet another war monger thread....

In my opinion the only people that should have arms are the Military, Security forces such as the police and the Farmer who has to protect his live stock....

They should be heavily licensed and kept locked away in metal, armoury like containers when not in use....

Until no private household is allowed to keep a gun/weapon we will have the likes a high school shootings and in the states camping shops should not have the weapons on display as they have....

We seem to have a great deal of war mongers and religious zealots on these threads....

Is it acceptable in the states that one can act and do what ever the hell they want six days a week and all will be forgiven if we run to church on Sunday....

Hypocrisy is the word that comes to mind.....

Want to play with guns join the military and serve your country....
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Mar 20, 2009 9:22 AM CST GUN CONTROL....is it a good thing
gooddogman
gooddogmangooddogmanLeesburg, Florida USA23 Threads 1,028 Posts
DRUI you have giving some very good information on this subject it has been my pleasure reading the facts that you have stated. Any time you'd like to go to the shooting range or hunting give me a shout...It would be my pleasure...wave
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Mar 20, 2009 9:23 AM CST GUN CONTROL....is it a good thing
bazza5060
bazza5060bazza5060veliko tarnovo, Veliko Turnovo Bulgaria11 Posts
Snuggs09: YOU should learn to be polite in expressing your opinion and not condemning someone who doesn't agree with you.


hi snuggs
i was a firearms certificate holder in the uk before they got banned even though the gun owners did lobby mps etc and what we said then is true now
when we were allowed to shoot (targets only)we lost a few of our civil rights ie if a crime was committed the police had the right to search without warning and test our firearms which we are more than happy to do at least they new where the guns where

now its only criminals that have them if they are seen carrying a gun shoot first ask questions later,good stiff sentences in a prison not a hotel no liberties we had ours taken away yes gun crime is a problem in the uk now

but i cant see any reason for fully automatic weapons

so if you have an ak47 please send it to me

many thanks
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Mar 20, 2009 9:26 AM CST GUN CONTROL....is it a good thing
gooddogman
gooddogmangooddogmanLeesburg, Florida USA23 Threads 1,028 Posts
Tamarin: Yet another war monger thread....

In my opinion the only people that should have arms are the Military, Security forces such as the police and the Farmer who has to protect his live stock....

They should be heavily licensed and kept locked away in metal, armoury like containers when not in use....

Until no private household is allowed to keep a gun/weapon we will have the likes a high school shootings and in the states camping shops should not have the weapons on display as they have....

We seem to have a great deal of war mongers and religious zealots on these threads....

Is it acceptable in the states that one can act and do what ever the hell they want six days a week and all will be forgiven if we run to church on Sunday....

Hypocrisy is the word that comes to mind.....

Want to play with guns join the military and serve your country....


I guess this is what the KING had in mind when the colonies TOOK UP ARMS to protect their Land and familys.....
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Mar 20, 2009 9:29 AM CST GUN CONTROL....is it a good thing
Tamarin
TamarinTamarinsomewhere, Lothian, Scotland UK173 Threads 1 Polls 3,267 Posts
gooddogman: I guess this is what the KING had in mind when the colonies TOOK UP ARMS to protect their Land and familys.....



A weak, poor and old arguement....

Is that the best you can come up....

yawn
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Mar 20, 2009 9:42 AM CST GUN CONTROL....is it a good thing
Snuggs09
Snuggs09Snuggs09Somewhere, New Jersey USA128 Threads 1 Polls 2,615 Posts
Tamarin: Yet another war monger thread....

In my opinion the only people that should have arms are the Military, Security forces such as the police and the Farmer who has to protect his live stock....

They should be heavily licensed and kept locked away in metal, armoury like containers when not in use....

Until no private household is allowed to keep a gun/weapon we will have the likes a high school shootings and in the states camping shops should not have the weapons on display as they have....

We seem to have a great deal of war mongers and religious zealots on these threads....

Is it acceptable in the states that one can act and do what ever the hell they want six days a week and all will be forgiven if we run to church on Sunday....

Hypocrisy is the word that comes to mind.....

Want to play with guns join the military and serve your country....


They are forgetting about Columbine and the West Virginia college massacares.

Maybe if the killers had weapons training they would have done it more gently.doh
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