GUN CONTROL....is it a good thing ( Archived) (888)

Mar 20, 2009 5:13 PM CST GUN CONTROL....is it a good thing
petalbabe
petalbabepetalbabeOgdensburg, New York, Cork Ireland61 Threads 1 Polls 3,101 Posts
Tamarin: I know very little about Irish history but have enjoyed learning from the wonderful and friendly Irish people on the Irish Forum....

Life is for learning each minute of the day.....

Good night and Best wishes PB.....

I think we need to get back to the topic of the thread...


Good night Tam, and I wish you all the best.

I dont wish to make it public on here, but I know your pain, Believe me.
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Mar 20, 2009 5:14 PM CST GUN CONTROL....is it a good thing
petalbabe
petalbabepetalbabeOgdensburg, New York, Cork Ireland61 Threads 1 Polls 3,101 Posts
Tamarin: I know very little about Irish history but have enjoyed learning from the wonderful and friendly Irish people on the Irish Forum....

Life is for learning each minute of the day.....

Good night and Best wishes PB.....

I think we need to get back to the topic of the thread...


Wish I could be there for you, I really do,.
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Mar 20, 2009 5:17 PM CST GUN CONTROL....is it a good thing
Tamarin
TamarinTamarinsomewhere, Lothian, Scotland UK173 Threads 1 Polls 3,267 Posts
petalbabe: Wish I could be there for you, I really do,.


PB please leave me alone.....
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Mar 20, 2009 5:18 PM CST GUN CONTROL....is it a good thing
petalbabe
petalbabepetalbabeOgdensburg, New York, Cork Ireland61 Threads 1 Polls 3,101 Posts
Tamarin: PB please leave me alone.....


Fine!

Thank you for that,.
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Mar 20, 2009 5:22 PM CST GUN CONTROL....is it a good thing
Sublime_Spirit
Sublime_SpiritSublime_SpiritMillington, Tennessee USA1 Posts
What needs to be done is to issue one firearm to every citizen over the age of 21. Cause the only reason our government wants "gun control", is because of the people using them illegally. If everyone had their own weapon issued to them and were required to get a carry permit, then gun crime would drop considerably. If everyone knew that everyone else had a gun, criminals would definitely think long and hard before deciding to commit a gun crime, cause they would know that the person they did the crime to would also have a gun and could fight back.
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Mar 20, 2009 5:26 PM CST GUN CONTROL....is it a good thing
Tamarin
TamarinTamarinsomewhere, Lothian, Scotland UK173 Threads 1 Polls 3,267 Posts
USThumper: If you had a weapon there would be almost no possibility of ever getting in that position to need to find out. For myself, anyone who tries to hurt any of the girls or women in my life has a death wish and better turn himself in before I get to him because Im verry protective of them


A man is physically stronger than a woman that is fact so that weapon may not save a female from such an attack....

I understand your view as a man on protecting a woman....

This thread has gone totally way off the subject and I apologise to the thread poster for my part...
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Mar 20, 2009 5:27 PM CST GUN CONTROL....is it a good thing
DazzleYou: The government does not give rights currently, but if a dictator rises to power, as we have seen many times through history you will see our way of life change dramatically.

I stand by my statement that one of the reasons the founding fathers wrote the 2nd amendment and ranked it so high in the document is because of the rights of people to take up arms against a dictatorial regime - it is a check and balance.


Ayn Rand
in "For The New Intellectual"

The source of man’s rights is not divine law or congressional law, but the law of identity. A is A—and Man is Man. Rights are conditions of existence required by man’s nature for his proper survival. If man is to live on earth, it is right for him to use his mind, it is right to act on his own free judgment, it is right to work for his values and to keep the product of his work. If life on earth is his purpose, he has a right to live as a rational being: nature forbids him the irrational. Any group, any gang, any nation that attempts to negate man’s rights, is wrong, which means: is evil, which means: is anti-life.



The Rights Of Man are Not the Governments to give!





conversing
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Mar 20, 2009 5:39 PM CST GUN CONTROL....is it a good thing
USThumper
USThumperUSThumperMexico, New York USA4 Threads 3,957 Posts
Tamarin: A man is physically stronger than a woman that is fact so that weapon may not save a female from such an attack....

I understand your view as a man on protecting a woman....

This thread has gone totally way off the subject and I apologise to the thread poster for my part...
Yes it has. My question a couple o fpages back still stands though. No one has any idea of how to do it better
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Mar 20, 2009 6:41 PM CST GUN CONTROL....is it a good thing
zee1ander
zee1anderzee1anderSomewhere, Kentucky USA52 Threads 4 Polls 1,758 Posts


This says it all

zee
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Mar 20, 2009 6:52 PM CST GUN CONTROL....is it a good thing
If I remember correctly, the first attempts at emasculating the general population are to remove their weapons of defense. Much as we would like, we do not live in a non-violent world, or a non-violent country. There are currently more murders in the U.S. every day than there are in Iraq and Afganistan combined and they are at war.
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Mar 20, 2009 7:00 PM CST GUN CONTROL....is it a good thing
zee1ander
zee1anderzee1anderSomewhere, Kentucky USA52 Threads 4 Polls 1,758 Posts
If you choose not to have the right to protect yourself, then you choose to be the victim.

I choose to be able to be able to defend myself.

The first thing I would do after shooting and killing an intruder in my house would be to rob their corps to pay for the gun they caused me to lose as evidence.

zee
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Mar 20, 2009 7:18 PM CST GUN CONTROL....is it a good thing
vonney
vonneyvonneyDublin, Ireland24 Threads 6,371 Posts
zee1ander: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M1u0Byq5Qis

This says it all

zee


I watched this thread with more than a little fascination, what it tells me is that some ppl think they should have the right to end the life of another.


I have realised on my time on these forums that there are many differences in how ppl of different Countries and Cultures view things.

I have read this thread with both interest and horror.

As much as ppl who have guns, and believe in the right to have them think they are right, I think they should try to understand that those of us who have grown up knowing only death because of guns have the right to think it is wrong to have them

I have seen many a post about how cars kill and should we ban them....cars are not made to kill, they are made to transport us and sadly can kill if driven without responsibility.

Guns are made to kill and maim, even if you believe in the right to carry them you have to admit that this is the purpose for which they are made.
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Mar 20, 2009 7:32 PM CST GUN CONTROL....is it a good thing
zee1ander
zee1anderzee1anderSomewhere, Kentucky USA52 Threads 4 Polls 1,758 Posts
vonney: I watched this thread with more than a little fascination, what it tells me is that some ppl think they should have the right to end the life of another.I have realised on my time on these forums that there are many differences in how ppl of different Countries and Cultures view things.

I have read this thread with both interest and horror.

As much as ppl who have guns, and believe in the right to have them think they are right, I think they should try to understand that those of us who have grown up knowing only death because of guns have the right to think it is wrong to have them

I have seen many a post about how cars kill and should we ban them....cars are not made to kill, they are made to transport us and sadly can kill if driven without responsibility.

Guns are made to kill and maim, even if you believe in the right to carry them you have to admit that this is the purpose for which they are made.



How does that saying go? Opinions are like .......

I saw the video as something much different.... rather than having the right to take a life... it is the right to defend ones life and their loved ones. I couldn't sit by and allow a family member be executed... could you?

zee
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Mar 20, 2009 7:35 PM CST GUN CONTROL....is it a good thing
vonney
vonneyvonneyDublin, Ireland24 Threads 6,371 Posts
zee1ander: How does that saying go? Opinions are like .......

I saw the video as something much different.... rather than having the right to take a life... it is the right to defend ones life and their loved ones. I couldn't sit by and allow a family member be executed... could you?

zee



Is not up to me who lives and who dies.
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Mar 20, 2009 7:41 PM CST GUN CONTROL....is it a good thing
jlw45
jlw45jlw45Moyers, Oklahoma USA66 Threads 1 Polls 15,566 Posts
zee1ander: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M1u0Byq5Qis

This says it all

zee
i could'nt agree more...that, indeed, says it allcheers thumbs up
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Mar 20, 2009 7:43 PM CST GUN CONTROL....is it a good thing
vonney
vonneyvonneyDublin, Ireland24 Threads 6,371 Posts
jlw45: i could'nt agree more...that, indeed, says it all


As I have posted already it is how we view things, to me the video is an endorsment of why ppl shouldnt be allowed carry guns.
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Mar 20, 2009 7:44 PM CST GUN CONTROL....is it a good thing
jlw45
jlw45jlw45Moyers, Oklahoma USA66 Threads 1 Polls 15,566 Posts
vonney: Is not up to me who lives and who dies.
but, would you give that choice to someone else, with your life?...dunno ...i would'ntprofessor

i'm just sayin'....cheers hug
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Mar 20, 2009 7:45 PM CST GUN CONTROL....is it a good thing
littlewolf
littlewolflittlewolfnunya, Oklahoma USA10 Threads 526 Posts
DazzleYou: Um,

Tam, not to beat a dead horse here, but you said several times in this thread that those who held a different view than you were "Uneducated."

I hold a different view than you and I would say I am probably one of the most educated individuals on these boards, not only in credentials, but on this issue specifically.

While you never called me uneducated, you called several others who voiced their opinion uneducated. That is no different than saying "someone is inferior to you."
Yk u Daz.
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Mar 20, 2009 7:46 PM CST GUN CONTROL....is it a good thing
jlw45
jlw45jlw45Moyers, Oklahoma USA66 Threads 1 Polls 15,566 Posts
vonney: As I have posted already it is how we view things, to me the video is an endorsment of why ppl shouldnt be allowed carry guns.
the one that was "allowed" to carry the gun did'nt commit the crime...
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Mar 20, 2009 7:47 PM CST GUN CONTROL....is it a good thing
vonney
vonneyvonneyDublin, Ireland24 Threads 6,371 Posts
jlw45: but, would you give that choice to someone else, with your life?... ...i would'nt

i'm just sayin'....


I know, and what I am trying to say is that I wish ppl would understand the views of those of us who have negative views of guns. I dont understand why those who agree with ppl carrying guns cant agree that guns are made to maim and kill. I am not saying everyone who has one will do this but it is a fact that this is the purpose for which they are made.
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