GUN CONTROL....is it a good thing (888)
jessejess47: I was speaking of these numbers, I was just wondering that because of the high number of deaths in the states that how they were compared to the population in other areas, like here we have a much larger population than say Canada, so therefore there would be more deaths here as there are more people. But I have to agree the numbers are very bad to see
Just a quick glance at the figures shows there
is little correlation.
USA has a population five times greater than the
UK, yet the number of children murdered by guns
is two hundred and fifty times greater.
Canada has a population half the size of the UK
and has fifteen times more.
That is going from the figures I posted earlier
for the years stated.
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The_Kansan: You said the same thing ten or fifteen pages ago and yet you're still in the thick of it. If it bores you as much as you claim I'd think you would have left to do something more productive by now.
(Oh, and by the way, it's Kansan, not K. )
(Oh, and by the way, it's Kansan, not K. )
I apologise Kansan for shortening your name....I came back in to the thread to answer Sommer's questions ...she asked....I answered as is a polite debating fashion...
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bodleing: Just a quick glance at the figures shows there
is little correlation.
USA has a population five times greater than the
UK, yet the number of children murdered by guns
is two hundred and fifty times greater.
Canada has a population half the size of the UK
and has fifteen times more.
That is going from the figures I posted earlier
for the years stated.
thanks Like I said I have to agree they are some what scaryis little correlation.
USA has a population five times greater than the
UK, yet the number of children murdered by guns
is two hundred and fifty times greater.
Canada has a population half the size of the UK
and has fifteen times more.
That is going from the figures I posted earlier
for the years stated.
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bodleing: Just a quick glance at the figures shows there
is little correlation.
USA has a population five times greater than the
UK, yet the number of children murdered by guns
is two hundred and fifty times greater.
Canada has a population half the size of the UK
and has fifteen times more.
That is going from the figures I posted earlier
for the years stated.
is little correlation.
USA has a population five times greater than the
UK, yet the number of children murdered by guns
is two hundred and fifty times greater.
Canada has a population half the size of the UK
and has fifteen times more.
That is going from the figures I posted earlier
for the years stated.
Hi bodeling.
Goodness, we seem to be meeting alot these days.
Could you just clarify your first comment for me, I am unsure, the bold highlight.
In which country, the UK or the US?
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Sommerauer71: Hi bodeling.
Goodness, we seem to be meeting alot these days.
Could you just clarify your first comment for me, I am unsure, the bold highlight.
In which country, the UK or the US?
I am sure he is referring to the US haveing the high amount.Goodness, we seem to be meeting alot these days.
Could you just clarify your first comment for me, I am unsure, the bold highlight.
In which country, the UK or the US?
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jessejess47: I am sure he is referring to the US haveing the high amount.
I thought so Jesse, but I wanted to be clear.
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you are completely off point as to why the second amendment was created. It was put into play to protect Americans from the gov should there be another tyranny. I cannot think of a more prevalent time then now.
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jtlextreme: you are completely off point as to why the second amendment was created. It was put into play to protect Americans from the gov should there be another tyranny. I cannot think of a more prevalent time then now.
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bodleing: Just a quick glance at the figures shows there
is little correlation.
USA has a population five times greater than the
UK, yet the number of children murdered by guns
is two hundred and fifty times greater.
Canada has a population half the size of the UK
and has fifteen times more.
That is going from the figures I posted earlier
for the years stated.
is little correlation.
USA has a population five times greater than the
UK, yet the number of children murdered by guns
is two hundred and fifty times greater.
Canada has a population half the size of the UK
and has fifteen times more.
That is going from the figures I posted earlier
for the years stated.
Yes but guns in Canada are illegal...at least handguns are...and other restricted weapons....guns for hunting etc...you have to have what's called an FAC...Firearms Acquisition Certificate..attend a hunter's safety course and now register them...the only thing you can have a handgun is with a license for target shooting and that's it...We are a prime example of how making guns illegal does not work...it's the black market illegal guns that do 99% of the killing here...this is the problem....
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jtlextreme: you are completely off point as to why the second amendment was created. It was put into play to protect Americans from the gov should there be another tyranny. I cannot think of a more prevalent time then now.
The Redcoats are back? But under a different mask? 
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jtlextreme: you are completely off point as to why the second amendment was created. It was put into play to protect Americans from the gov should there be another tyranny. I cannot think of a more prevalent time then now.
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Sommerauer71: Hi bodeling.
Goodness, we seem to be meeting alot these days.
Could you just clarify your first comment for me, I am unsure, the bold highlight.
In which country, the UK or the US?
Goodness, we seem to be meeting alot these days.
Could you just clarify your first comment for me, I am unsure, the bold highlight.
In which country, the UK or the US?
In one year, firearms killed no children in Japan, 19 in Great Britain, 57 in Germany, 109 in France, 153 in Canada, and 5,285 in the United States. (Centers for Disease Control)
If the figures are correct, you can see USA has
approx 250 times greater than the UK.
I think thats right, just did a quick calculation,
maybe someone might want to check it.
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bodleing: Just a quick glance at the figures shows there
is little correlation.
USA has a population five times greater than the
UK, yet the number of children murdered by guns
is two hundred and fifty times greater.
Canada has a population half the size of the UK
and has fifteen times more.
That is going from the figures I posted earlier
for the years stated.
is little correlation.
USA has a population five times greater than the
UK, yet the number of children murdered by guns
is two hundred and fifty times greater.
Canada has a population half the size of the UK
and has fifteen times more.
That is going from the figures I posted earlier
for the years stated.
The main thing I have read though about crime rates is the most crimes are committed in big cities, and so those are mostly gang related.
The children in the statistics are mostly from gangs shooting gangs, or the police having to shoot a gang member, Or people having to shoot a gang member out of self defense.
So the stats also include the police having to kill a child. Children are anyone under the age of 18 , Well most gang members are in their 20's to early teens.
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Hugz_n_Kissez: Yes but guns in Canada are illegal...at least handguns are...and other restricted weapons....guns for hunting etc...you have to have what's called an FAC...Firearms Acquisition Certificate..attend a hunter's safety course and now register them...the only thing you can have a handgun is with a license for target shooting and that's it...We are a prime example of how making guns illegal does not work...it's the black market illegal guns that do 99% of the killing here...this is the problem....
I agree Hugz, I mentioned that earlier.
I just think its a matter of more guns = more shootings
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bodleing: In one year, firearms killed no children in Japan, 19 in Great Britain, 57 in Germany, 109 in France, 153 in Canada, and 5,285 in the United States. (Centers for Disease Control)
If the figures are correct, you can see USA has
approx 250 times greater than the UK.
I think thats right, just did a quick calculation,
maybe someone might want to check it.
If the figures are correct, you can see USA has
approx 250 times greater than the UK.
I think thats right, just did a quick calculation,
maybe someone might want to check it.
Thank you bodeling, I don't need to check, I can see your figures clearly.
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The_Kansan: With all due respect, 'T', I never said you were dragging. You mis-read. What I said was that you bragged (i.,e., boasted, were proud of, etc...) of being a pacifist and yet were (in my experience) one of the most confrontational people here.
And I beg to differ. You are not discussing. You are continually telling me that I'm wrong and you're right. All I'm doing is explaining that because of my own particular circumstances I am not wrong. Big difference there.
As to none of us being related - Let me explain: You are related to your son and yet have admitted no control (even spoke with some apparent pride of the fact that he knows how to use a gun) over what his father taught him. I am not related to you and yet you're telling ME that to teach my children about guns is wrong. It's a double standard and I'm not buying it.
I'll leave you alone again for awhile - I really bear you no ill will - but I wish you'd apply the same standards to yourself that you apply to the rest of us.
And I beg to differ. You are not discussing. You are continually telling me that I'm wrong and you're right. All I'm doing is explaining that because of my own particular circumstances I am not wrong. Big difference there.
As to none of us being related - Let me explain: You are related to your son and yet have admitted no control (even spoke with some apparent pride of the fact that he knows how to use a gun) over what his father taught him. I am not related to you and yet you're telling ME that to teach my children about guns is wrong. It's a double standard and I'm not buying it.
I'll leave you alone again for awhile - I really bear you no ill will - but I wish you'd apply the same standards to yourself that you apply to the rest of us.
I am sorry I knew exactly what you meant, I did not misread ....I am dyslexic and get B and D mixed up especially when very tired..... I was not bragging...please see there is a difference between the word pacifist and confrontational and I am not confrontational...I am discussing ....if you met me in real life you would see a mild mannered, soft spoken, gentle female...
I have not admitted no control of my son and you put those wordes down not I....
But I do not dictate what a father does with his son when he is visiting him....I am not proud he can use a gun and if you read my post you will see you have misundrstood my words....I simply stated a fact....
I am not telling you are wrong ....I am simply saying I have a different opinion to you repectfully....
I have no double standards sir so that is why I am being polite, honest, truthful and genuine with you in a respectful manner...
I hope you apply that when responding to me also remembering we all have different views and opinions...
I do take upset that you typed I had no control as a parent..
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jtlextreme: you are completely off point as to why the second amendment was created. It was put into play to protect Americans from the gov should there be another tyranny. I cannot think of a more prevalent time then now.
also this is a deep rooted tradition in our history and we as Americans for the most part take this very deep in our hearts, it is but a few here that think we should give up our arms, Daniel Boone , Davy Crocket our heros here, Thomas Jefferson and all of the forefathers also were from other countries and gave us this "RIGHT", it will indeed be a very hard thing to do to remove this "RIGHT" in this country , right or wrong this is how it is 
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bodleing: I agree Hugz, I mentioned that earlier.
I just think its a matter of more guns = more shootings
I just think its a matter of more guns = more shootings
Yes...BUT they haven't been able to stop the illegal ones so far which are the major problem...not the law abiding citizens who have them.....as long as they are responsible gun owners that is..and here it is also an offense not to have your gun kept in safe storage...a locked gun cabinet...
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mylifewithu: The main thing I have read though about crime rates is the most crimes are committed in big cities, and so those are mostly gang related.
The children in the statistics are mostly from gangs shooting gangs, or the police having to shoot a gang member, Or people having to shoot a gang member out of self defense.
So the stats also include the police having to kill a child. Children are anyone under the age of 18 , Well most gang members are in their 20's to early teens.
The children in the statistics are mostly from gangs shooting gangs, or the police having to shoot a gang member, Or people having to shoot a gang member out of self defense.
So the stats also include the police having to kill a child. Children are anyone under the age of 18 , Well most gang members are in their 20's to early teens.
But as someone mentioned earlier,
we have gangs in the UK.
You have to admit, 250 times greater???
That's really is quite a lot.
I might be wrong, but I could jump to the
conclusion it has something to do with the
availability of guns, perhaps.
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All farmers I know have a shotgun for obvious reasons...just as a vet carries a gun to put down an animal in pain....
Why should you know my ex was a farmer at one time and came from farming people....I never discussed it with you or anyone here..
I did not choose to learn to shoot...I did not go up to my step dad and say please teach me to use a gun....
I was a child who had choices made for me just as my son's father made for him....
As I am now an adult I can make my own choices and think it is wrong for any child to handle a gun and that it is wrong to have an item that is designed to kill and harm...That a child should make that decision for themselves when an adult...
That is what adults do make their own choices and form their own views....
Children do not they hopefully have sensible adults to make appropriate choices for them...
Thi thread is now dull and going around in circles IMO...
You said the same thing ten or fifteen pages ago and yet you're still in the thick of it. If it bores you as much as you claim I'd think you would have left to do something more productive by now.
(Oh, and by the way, it's Kansan, not K.