JeanKimberley Forum Posts (7,499)

RE: Death Penalty? Yes or No?

What about the other spectrum of the debate - is it Finland? Sweden? that allow the assisted killing of those with terminal illness?

RE: 2016

Hey!


Wait a minute!


What happened to live in the present?


We need to talk about the here and now, don't you think?

RE: Death Penalty? Yes or No?

excerpt from John K. Roman on Costs of the Death Penalty Judiciary Committee Delaware Senate

Thank you for the opportunity to testify before you today on SB 19. The death penalty is one of the most polarizing social issues under debate today. Few debates, however, are undertaken with as little empirical evidence as is available in the debate about capital punishment. While there are substantial disagreements about most aspects of the death penalty, there is a consensus about one important data point: having a death penalty is more expensive for a state than not having the death penalty. In 2007 and 2008 I led a team at the Urban Institute that studied this question, and I would like to report the results of the study.

We find that the total costs of a typical murder case in Maryland are about $1 million, including post- trial incarceration. Capital eligible cases where prosecutors filed notice that they would seek the death penalty but where no death penalty was imposed cost almost $700,000 more than cases where prosecutors could have—but did not—seek the death penalty. When a death sentence was imposed, the total added costs were $1.8 million. We estimate that the total lifetime cost to Maryland taxpayers of murder cases where a death penalty is sought is $186 million. These numbers would be even higher, but few death sentences are imposed, and few of those result in an execution.
While these data are particular to Maryland, all 14 prior studies of the death penalty have consistently shown that the death penalty increases costs. If the death penalty were abolished, those dollars could
be used in a variety of positive ways—including returning them to Delaware taxpayers. However, hard- won experience suggests that the only way for those gains to be realized is to reallocate the public’s money now. When savings such as these can be anticipated, the best course of action is to take that money off the table. If we wait, the money will simply be spent for other purposes before there can be any public debate.

RE: Death Penalty? Yes or No?

I have noticed that a lot of opponents to the death penalty are often pro-life defenders - life on one end yet not on the other?

Isn't is odd, we would sanction life of a person legally sentenced and then defend the right of a woman to end her pregnancy within a short window period of time - putting aside the debate about when do we consider an unborn child - a life.

Our country must come to grips when and how sanctioning the taking of another's life - through courts with due process, law and order, during war, during acts of self-defense -
It is not a simple solution that fits.

This ethical question is a tough one. Except for Tru's solution!

RE: DESCRIBE YOUR EX IN ONE WORD

I just filled my depends laughing so hard....

RE: .......2015.??????????

and not a single Scottish laddie blowing the bagpipes yet either

and ya didn't make this a picture thread!

RE: DESCRIBE YOUR EX IN ONE WORD

Yes except nobody better pee in that pool - cause the lifeguards will kick us out.

RE: Death Penalty? Yes or No?

I can hardly wait.....


DEBATE! (mob gathers around the soap boxes and intense silence befalls the growing crowd as in one corner approaching the microphone..... wearing a mischieveous crying but lovable granddaughter .....

The referee shouts DEBATE!

RE: Death Penalty? Yes or No?

Lethal Injection Drug Shortage
By Jennifer Horne CSG Associate Director of Policy and Special Libraries
Texas has 317 inmates on death row, but only enough of a key lethal injection drug to execute two of them. Ohio has just one dose of the drug left.
A nationwide shortage of sodium thiopental, an anesthetic that is part of the three-drug cocktail used in lethal injections, has thrown capital punishment in the United States into disarray, delaying executions and forcing the change of execution protocols in several states.
Last month, Hospira—the sole U.S. company approved to manufacture the drug—announced it will no longer produce sodium thiopental. This move followed a global campaign by death penalty opponents and pressure by Italian government officials after the company sought to shift production of the drug to an Italian plant.
The shortage of sodium thiopental has forced the 35 states using lethal injection to scramble for any remaining stock and to explore alternatives.
“Many states will have to change their method of execution, which means regulatory changes that have to be approved and lengthy court challenges,” says Richard Dieter, executive director of the Death Penalty Information Center. “In many states, this could take months, if not years, delaying executions.”

I'll get the

RE: What are people doing for New years..??

Tried to log onto to connecting singles....... internet so, so slow. Gave it up - watched a movie on cable. Went to bed early.

Woke at 3 am wished a few cs friends happy new year. Tried to change the setting on my computer so I could download moving stuff - no luck.

Thinking about going back to sleep. still all in all, a nice way to welcome in the new year.

RE: Death Penalty? Yes or No?

It is very expensive to do. Death row inmates require more supervision and more security to house.

The appeal process usually takes 10 to 12 years before execution. Now that Europe does not want to provide the drugs for the legal injection, it is a costly, long and painful process to put someone to death.

and is it really a deterrent to others?

Punishment that is just, swift and sure are said to be the answer to deterrent bad behavior.

RE: Death Penalty? Yes or No?

It's a tough issue to address in a nation or state.

I recently read about a governor of an eastern united state pardoning all on death row and commuting their sentence to life in prison.

Sometimes the worry and rightly so, is that those that are condemned to die, get their sentence changed to life in prison and that does not mean their natural life, often shortened and then they get out of prison.

If a life in prison meant a life in prison - then that would be justice.

RE: happy new year

to the New Year 2015

RE: Sad

HAPPY 2015! am I in the right thread? oh, and for all those cunilinguists, and sad tossers

Who is the CS's biggest master baiter?

or an ophthalmologist or a .... some poor blind guy missing his mental abilities....

RE: Word to Live By - Part 3

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RE: Do The women true love to their men

Just saw a great movie - "the Face of Love" - really addresses the issue of love. Its a story of a woman who's husband dies and she meets a man who is identical looking. Robin Williams plays the character of the next door neighbor and best friend.

Who is the CS's biggest master baiter?

dang, it's not what it says on the travel brochure?

Well, I am willing to take in the beautiful countryside and the warmth and friendship of the local folk - although not in winter...... nooooo, never in winter!

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Do you think I should use this profile photo to lure him here?

RE: suggestions please

I think they still offer sewing classes at the local community centers there.... right?

RE: Is honesty the best policy?

I guess it depends on your flaws...... Leading a dating conversation with I have a bad credit rating, or red is not my real hair color might not find you any 2nd dates.....

Who is the CS's biggest master baiter?

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How are you voting for master baiter?

Who is the CS's biggest master baiter?

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RE: I went out with a man tonight 14 years my junior....

My good friend has always preferred much younger men. She is very energetic and young at heart. It seems to work for her. When she was in her 50s she was dating a late 20 year old.

I myself have always preferred the same age, or older men than myself.

RE: Is honesty the best policy?

but then might it feel like a strangers hand on things?

RE: after death

Sorry, but usually what we want and what we get.... are different.

RE: Is honesty the best policy?

RE: Is honesty the best policy?

I guess it's better than his confession that he is a serial killer.... or maybe not.... depends on when he exposes his flaws.....

RE: after death

RE: after death

I might have condensed into these two posts too little - these are many complex concepts to think about.

So what does this have to do with death? Just that like I was created through my parents procreation efforts, so too I will die

and yet the universe or universes will continue on forever.

RE: after death

If space on a micro-cosmic level is seen on a cosmic level - our universe that hosts 100 billion galaxies, surely even if a bubble formed it would be doomed to disappear again in the blink of an eye. If all the galaxies are flying apart, they must have at one time been close together.

General relativity tells us that the space-time we live in could take 3 different forms. Flat as a table top, curve back on itself like a sphere or curve outward like a saddle. If the universe is flat - could we come from nothing. Quantum mechanics tell us that nothing is inherently unstable so the leap from nothing to something may be inevitable. Resulting in a tiny bible in space-time burst into a massive busy universe.

Linde thinks that the universes have always been springing into existence and that this process will continue forever.