I really don't give religion that much thought, if at all. I will leave that up to those with an abiding faith or lack thereof, or for those who spend their entire life studying this subject.
I just want to dance in the luminous glow of the moon.
These programs have brought or accompanied significant gains for women and minorities. In the past 25 years, black participation in the work force has increased 50 percent and the percentage of blacks holding managerial positions has jumped fivefold. In 1970, women comprised only 5 percent of lawyers compared to 20 percent today. Twenty-five years ago, the student population at University of California, Berkeley, was 80 percent white compared to 45 percent today. Despite these strides, severe inequities remain. Nearly 97 percent of corporate senior executives in the United States are white. Only 5 percent of all professionals are black though blacks comprise 12.7 percent of the work force. Hispanics hold only 4 percent of white-collar jobs but make up 7.5 percent of the work force.
From the IASP Institute on Asset and Social Policy
Data for this analysis derived from the Panel Study of Income Dynamics (PSID), a nationally representative longitudinal study that began in 1968. We followed nearly 1,700 working-age households from 1984 through 2009. Tracking these families provides a unique opportunity to understand what happened to the wealth gap over the course of a generation and the effect of policy and institutional decision-making on how average families accumulate wealth. Unfortunately, there were not enough data that tracked wealth information in a sufficient number of Latino, Asian American, or immigrant households to include in this report. As a result, the specific focus here is on black-white differences. Yet, while each group shares different histories and experiences, we believe this examination captures important dynamics that can be applied across communities of color
The median wealth of white households is 20 times that of black households and 18 times that of Hispanic households, according to a Pew Research Center analysis of newly available government data from 2009.
These lopsided wealth ratios are the largest since the government began publishing such data a quarter century ago and roughly twice the size of the ratios that had prevailed between these three groups for the two decades prior to the Great Recession that ended in 2009.
The Pew Research analysis finds that, in percentage terms, the bursting of the housing market bubble in 2006 and the recession that followed from late 2007 to mid-2009 took a far greater toll on the wealth of minorities than whites. From 2005 to 2009, inflation-adjusted median wealth fell by 66% among Hispanic households and 53% among black households, compared with just 16% among white households.
It pure bigotry on anyone's part to think that it's about who can get the job done. If you have a predisposed bias against a class of people then you think they won't be able to get the job done.
I was talking about research conducted by reputable institutes, not for political purposes and not with a particular agenda in mind - however and they found over the long term that race stuff does matter in how we in America, hire, promote and pay.... and that is reality. So we can have all kinds of "attitudes" about if there is race issues when the research indicates if we don't care about the race stuff it certainly cares about us.
I veer a little off topic but related to hiring and paying practices all over the nation
MYTH: Saying women only earn 77 cents on the dollar is a huge exaggeration – the “real” pay gap is much smaller than that (if it even exists).
REALITY: The size of the pay gap depends on how you measure it. The most common estimate is based on differences in annual earnings (currently about 23 cents difference per dollar). Another approach uses weekly earnings data (closer to an 18- or 19-cent difference). Analyzing the weekly figures can be more precise in certain ways, like accounting for work hours that vary over the course of the year, and less accurate in others, like certain forms of compensation that don’t get paid as weekly wages. No matter which number you start with, the differences in pay for women and men really add up. According to one analysis by the Department of Labor’s Chief Economist, a typical 25-year-old woman working full time would have already earned $5,000 less over the course of her working career than a typical 25-year old man. If that earnings gap is not corrected, by age 65, she will have lost hundreds of thousands of dollars over her working lifetime. We also know that women earn less than men in every state and region of the country, and that once you factor in race, the pay gap for women of color is even larger.
It really seems unfair on the outside of it - but after years of an unfair playing field, some "extra" points have to be applied - to make up for the missing points automatically taken from minorities and women in the past.
I recently read a study, from a long term study (somewhere in Detroit? Chicago ?) that white men were hired, promoted and paid more in private industry and government even though they had bad credit, prior criminal records and missing high school graduation or a higher degree (it tracked in union and non union jobs) over a period of 5? to 10 years. I'll look for the study.
Bottom line - even with the labor laws and rules.....
White men are not all that great when it comes to behavior and yet they get all the jobs, promotions and pay raises.... go figure?
I'm more of a pet accepting type - if you are a pet... then....
At my age, I could date a man that has grown or near grown children it is completely understandable. I am not looking to replace anyone's role as parent. However, I am interested in sharing my family with him and expect him to share his family with me... if it moves from dating to something more, on both our parts.
Best of luck as this is only between you and her, a ton of advice means nothing unless it is your advice to yourself and of course whether you take it.
JeanKimberley Forum Posts (7,499)
bung, bung, bung..... I can't even change my mind! 
RE: Proof of gods existence or non existence?
I'm thinking, I'm thinkingI really don't give religion that much thought, if at all. I will leave that up to those with an abiding faith or lack thereof, or for those who spend their entire life studying this subject.
I just want to dance in the luminous glow of the moon.