I never said it was right to massacre people but they do have a right to defend themselves. Their weapons are good but it's impossible for bullets, bumbs and missiles to distinguish between a civilian and a combatant.
Sorry you don't like may questioning technique. They are not meant to accuse they are meant to make one think. I guess that could be seen as malicious by some. Anyway, I'll pose the same question to you. Do you think if the rolls were reversed Hamas would allow Israel to continually launch rockets at Palestine?
Listening requires an open mind. Unfortunately, I don't believe you are able to have one with this particular issue since the subject is so close and personal to you. I honestly don't mean that as a derrogatory comment. But it's for these very reasons that I believe this conflict will last much longer than you and I will occupy this earth. As strongly as you believe in your position you can rest assured the opposing forces believe in theirs. From what I have seen, people are generally unwilling to bend in their beliefs which is why we have wars. I guess that's human nature.
I am sorry if you think I am emotional about this issue. That fact is, I am not. Believe that or not, it's up to you.
Nora, I hear what you're saying but wars are not made so that opposing sides can be compatible. As mean and callous as that may sound, that's the way it is.
Respectfully, You know nothing about me or what I have dealt with in the past so you have no basis for judging me just as I have no basis for judging you.
I also wonder why you feel a need to speak for Nora. She's an adult and speaks pretty well all by herself. Perhaps the comment was in reality perceived as disrespectful by you?
I don't really know Nora, how many do you think have to be killed? What's the right number? Does the fact that Hamas is using inferior weapons or that they are lousy shots make them any less threatening? I'll bet you wouldn't be asking such questions if the rolls were reversed.
I do believe you're right. Hamas, as the electerd representative government of Palestine has the right to protest and fight as they see fit or order to win whatever rights they feel they deserve.
It is equally true that Hamas maintains the right to reap the benefits of their actions. If one knows a dog is going to bite when a rock is thrown at it, it seems only prudent not to throw rocks. This to me makes no sense especially when Hamas knows they are unable to resist the Israeli army. The only conclusion I can come to is that Hamas is not being a good representative to the people of Palestine and the fact that they hide among them only goes to show they don't care about the people of Palestine. I believe the people of Palestine are nothing more than pawns for those organizations like Hamas that are chartered, yes chartered for nothing more than the destruction of Israel.
Given what I just told you about Hamas' charter, if you were Israel would you honestly disarm? For that matter, given how the Palestinians feel about Israel, is there any reason for Palestine to trust Israel. The answer to both is no. So maybe this war should just be waged in the manner they were conducted in Biblical times. We all step back and let em go. Either that or we all sit down and figure this out without assigning blame and attempting to negotiate by insult.
Perhaps with all our faults it would be best to bake your own man...
BTW, the term is "If the shoe fits wear it" not "if the shoe fits put it on" Because of this earlier error and in keeping with your standards I must eliminate you as someone who could fit my shoe
So it would be OK for Israel to do what they're doing now if they had waited for one or two of those missiles to kill a large number of their people
I not certain but I don't think Hamas sent those things to Israel with the intention of missing or sending those missiles as some form of greeting. I can't for the life of me understand why Israel would see such a thing as a hostile act.
Yes, you're absolutely right! Hamas are little and Israel is the
You don't wish to understand anything. You simply wish to place blame and hate. That's perfectly OK as long as you understand that your attitude and those with similar extreem attitudes on either side of this conflict will accomplish nothing more than continued violence. That's really going to be beneficial to all concerned isn't it.
That's a great quote. Someone should have watched that movie prior to launching missiles at Israel. There was another way to handle their differences just as there is another way for Israel to handle theirs. Seems they both have chosen their paths.
I understand perfectly. I would just like to see you prove your premise that Israel's charter translates to their desire to kill all Palistinians if they fail to leave Palistine. Perhaps you're onfusing Hamas' charter which does call for the destructio of Israel.
You should only campare similar things. The invasion of Kuwait by Saddam Hussein did not occur because Kuwait was launching rockets at Iraq, it was a land grab among other things. If this were not the case all those nations would not have been over there to assist in expelling them from Kuwait.
I didn't mention 9/11 in my original post. Normally I would think it strange that you would counter with such an arguement but then again everything written by you thus far has been far from reasonable. You assume I agree with every response America has made to these attacks which denotes another flaw in your arguement.
It seems to me that it really doesn't matter how many Israeli or Palistinian civilians are killed. If we're going to have a war, regardless of who started it, people are going to die. \
People may call it murder, Genocide or whatever they wish. It does seem that we are quick to call the Palistinians freedom fighters when they target civilians yet the Israelis are murderers when they target Hamas who hide among covilians.
The old adage "One man's terrorist is another man's freedom fighter" is a valid point but it's also true that bullets, mortar rounds and missiles do not distinguish between fighter and non combatants. Therefore it would seem reasonable if Hamas does not wish to see civilians killed then they should either stop hiding among them or stop lobbing rockets
I think the key word here is donated. He donated it to her which does not imply a contract. Just as a person donation to a charitable organization does not giver that donor the right to control that organization
He'll lose this case so now he's short one kidney but his broken heart should mend.
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and Israel is the
RE: So, this is the place to come and be judged by the public, hey?