RE: Obama for President......Octagram!

Todate, Obama campaign and the DNC that has declined every compromise effort to seat the FL and MI deligates. Thier primaries are long over with. You have a better term than 'cancelled out'?

RE: Obama for President......Octagram!

Dude,

I mentioned this earlier. I am looking forward to Obama/Mccain campaign in the fall. If he loses to McCain.....far left is in hurt city in the US. Hillary and her Dem machine will come back with a vengance on him and the far left. Far left will not get another chance for 10-15
years.

Barah if he loses.....he gets a couple of choices, I think. We talked of them in a earlier blog. But Hillary and the mod dems will seal him and the far left away from the Dem party leadership.

I see this as a chance to crunch the far left in the US. So smiles here :-)

The mod dem and Hillary see Barak and the far left as stealing her run for the Presidency. She was so confident that this was hers when it began. Now....with FL and MI being cancelled out by him.....and they
feel this to be unfair politics. So? They will not be nice and gracious if he loses to McCain, guarrenteed. They will try to bury him....

RE: Obama for President......Octagram!

Let me see....a few recent human rights declarations of recent times:

1. Iraqi Kurds to Sadam Hussien. Don't send Chemical Ali here to
north Iraq to drop chemical artelliry and bombs on us.

2. Iraqi Shia to Sadam Hussien. Don't send helicopter gunships to attack us as we protest you.

3. Afgahnistani people in the northern area of the country to the Taliban. Don't place land mines under the food parcels that the Americans have air dropped to us around our surrounded villages that
are starving.

4. Newly weds to Sadam sons after they were married. Don't make preform for you on our wedding night.

5. Capturing Iraqi by Alqeada of Iraq. Don't take me to the bed springs for electrical shocks again.

Wish me to go on? There is along list of human right violations by Sadam, AlQeada, Hezbollah, Hamas, and the others parties in this
conflict.

But it just seems a lot safer to stand outside the White House and cry
about American human right's violations....than to do it in these other places to me. There you better come packin and ready to defend yourself with that gun you don't anyone to carry.

RE: Obama for President......Octagram!

"This global village belongs to all of us"?

Go to a major US city, go to the inner city....where you see gang signs on the streets......and say loudly "This global village belongs to all of us"! Before the police and emt arriving 10 minutes later, to pick up your well aerated person from the ground, the last thing you will have heard is this. "This is my turf and this is my semi automatic."

Go to Iran and go the Basheer Nuclear Reactor.

Stand at the gate. And again say loudly. "This global village belongs to
all of us.!" After the Iranian guard place you into handcuffs and Pres. A
has a Kangaroo court with you. The last thing you will hear as they slam the jail cell on you for 20 years this. "This is my turf and my prison cell, have a nice life."

Go to Venezula. Go to one of the Oil complexes that Pres C. has nationalized.

Say loudly "This global village belongs to all of us." Again the guards will handcuff you, take you a very similar kangroo court......and you will find another prison cell door being closed. Again you will hear. "This is my turf and my prison cell, have a nice life."

Go to Cuba. Stand in middle of Havana.

Say loudly "This global village belongs to all of us." Again some Cuba security forces will quickly be at your side. A Knagroo court....and the same cell door closing with the same words..."This is my turf and my prison cell, have a nice life"

Go to some Mountain area inside Pakistan. A cave is there. Hiding inside is bin Laden.

Say loudly "This global village belongs to all of us."
His guards appear and take you inside. After maybe a Kangroo court....but likely without...The last words you hear are "This is my turf and this is my sword"

Go to the White House stand outside it all day long.

Say loudly "This global village belongs to all of us." With a sign in protest. Walk a picket line. Get media attention. That night you can go home and have diner. And no one will likely done a anything to you as long as it was done without violence and with outany physcial attack on the White House or the President.

Catching the difference?

RE: Obama 57.....

Maybe we need to use French peacekeepers on this, Indy. Using American forces within the country is illegal. Posse' Comitris laws. Actually I have been trying to figure how they are getting around that one by placing National the Guard units on the border. Likely they are so mission specific to stopping border crossings, that they don't have anyother law enforcement role.

Maybe Dude has seen the error of his ways.......and is tearing down his Obama posters placed all over Denmark on the street corners.....
replacing them with Vote McCain in 2008 posters?

RE: Obama 57.....

They will not touch it until they have solid confirmation on it. They get that.....rest assured.....imagine Obama/McCain in a debate......McCain asks....I hear your giving terrorist camp funding, Senator? Do you wish me to read our laws on funding terrorist?

RE: Obama 57.....

Deheisha camp was the one from where they launched an attack on Bethelem then they were forced into the Church of the Holy Specultre for a month long siege. If I remember correctly. They are some hard liners if he is giving to this camp. These guys are not like the Fatah party of Abbas....

RE: Obama 57.....

Good idea...someone need to ask him to recite them. I mean if he gets elected and forgets that Moscow, ND and Moscow, IN are in the country....and the Russikies get a little fiesty........that nuc he sends to them could be a bad day to someone.......

RE: Obama 57.....

J Goose, you are in so much trouble with the Obama dou.


scold


But funnier than a hoot..........the guy goes to the best colleges in
the country.....and we have 57 states? But it did get quiet about McCain's comments in Iraq over the Sunni and Shia or is that the Shia and Sunni? You know what I mean.......

Has anyone seen/read any of Barak's lectures while he was a guest speaker at Univ of Chicago?

RE: Obama for Presidnet!.....Heptachromic

I gave up on far left movies with Micheal (aka Roger) Moore first movie.
Reality is better on the other side of the street.

RE: Obama for Presidnet!.....Heptachromic

Dude, do you know what our inactive ready reserve strength is?

252,000 trained MOS (Military Occupational Specialty) IRR (Inactive Ready Reserve......touched once (6,000 were reactivated) for a man power source in this. All ready to go.

Sorry Dude, we have a lot more. Our casualites rates are 1 to 30 our enemies. Our rehabs are faster and more complete because our medical system. I know of single amputee that going back into front line para units. Meaning our guys get injured badly, they will still eb solider. That happens in the Muslim world.....he becomes a beggar on the street.

Also new technologies. The way we have always developed technologies has been as what they call 'force multipliers'. A force multipliers means that the unit or system is able to do more, functions
with less manpower. We started doing this in the 1980s. Was one of DoDs shifts in force structuring. A example of it? Shock and awe....the nite Bahdad was bombed. How many aircraft do you think conducted that attack? 15? 10? 5? try 1 or 2. That is a high tech force multiplier.

I just read on a two new ones that are soon coming. One in a emp device that disperse massed groups that are rioting. This is to be deployed soon. The other........wow.......is a like robo cop......the soldier wear this robotics suit.......it enhances all of his body movements. In one demostration of it...the tech raised a 150 pound weight some 500 times with one arm in a repetitive motion, he did not break a sweat. People were falling asleep it took so long. They have been working on it for 12 years ....full testing now underway.
In two to three year they project a full body suit armor for soldier that give them full protections from light weapon rounds....and get this....
airconditioning. America is a very innovative country Dude.....

Imagine what a company of 200 robotic equiped soldiers would do in urban warfare Dude? Baghdad....and AlSydar city will be a place where can you walk at night with your child beside you.

I would say....we are just getting warmed up.......you kick sand (9/11) in a super power face......he is going to kick back some. JMO ...I think Europe..or most of Europe picked the losing side in GWOT. But it is still a conflict in question. McCain wins in the Fall....we deploy more this kind of technologies.....bin Laden will crawling out his cave with a white flag.

If you want the sites and articles on the tech developments and manpower.....ask...I will provide.

And yes the Green zone is a great place for a debate......your man did say....'anyplace, anywhere, anyway' yes? Or is he backing down? I am so sure this is going to happen....I am ready to contact our military air transport div....to see what flights are available for the good Senators and their staffs. But I will wait till they OK it.:-)

RE: Obama for Presidnet!.....Heptachromic

LOL...now you are close enough to know the 'real GWB'? And close enough to be the intro speaker for Obama at the DNC? :-)

Iran is going to bring this on it self, Opal. How many years have sanctions been applied on it? How many times has Iran avoid full disclosure to the IEAI? How many times has President A. threatened
Isreal with destruction? Best prediction and projection, is Iran has a device next year, 2009.

Of everything you have said here blogging.....this resolution of the Iranian nuclear facilities will likely fall into GWB watch....specially
if Obama wins. is right on target. GWB is not going to let the issue remain unresolved with Obama coming into the office. Just the way it is, I guess.

Also this Opal. I went to McCain website today to see what his position is on a homeland for Palestine. Not much there...I did not search long....but none of the high % hits had anything on it. My bet is
McCain is undeclared on it.......waiting to see if it is a campaign issue and if it is Jewish votes in the fall. Right now might be the best bet for the Palestines to get homeland with GWB or a Obama win. But having Hamas endorse you is not conductive to getting a win. At least on the West Bank. If McCain wins, he is not commited to making one happen from what I read today.

RE: Obama for Presidnet!.....Heptachromic

You must read media releases only from Kos and Huffington Post, Opal.
Try the AP or CNN...I am not saying go totally to the right here. Saying balance it out some.

Abbas accepted his sincerity on this, Opal. Guess his vote as a leader of the Fatah of the Palestine people rates a little higher than you opinion. Guess you like this struggle and death along the west bank to continue? That is really sad.

As for talking....yikes......Jimmy Carter and Hamas....Nancy Polosi and
Syria.....Obama unconditional talks with North Korea, Iran, Venezula,
Syria......gesh Opal.....seems a lot of talk there as well. At least here it is the elected leader of the country....and has weight and merit when he says something. Theirs is just publicity and media releases....eg.....
hot air.

RE: Obama for Presidnet!.....Heptachromic

I am sure there wil not be such a debate over there...the area is too sad making any thing like that in any way. And they will have to salute this old military dude more any way!


Here are the reasons why it is a great place for a debate.

Soldier's vote....they are key part to our National Security...they are then men and woman that they next President will lead....Iraq is a critical aspect to our war on terrorism......Soldiers at such a debate are totally free to speak thier mind in the question session....it is not duty assignment.....rather is a political and educational function of attendance of their own choice.......they are Americans that Obama has not addressed in 15 month of campaigning......he has yet to make an appearance on a military base.....they might wish to ask him about 'why' his 'no vote' on the war...... they might wish to ask him about 'why quit' when they are close to finishing the mission....they might wish to ask him about why to deploy large force deployments to Afghanistan......they might wish to ask him many things Dude that a potential Commander in Chief needs to tell his troops.

I will clue you in, Dude. The American soldier is unlike any other on planet earth. He asks most often only one simple question. That is 'why'. A leader that answers that question....be it on a mission, on a operation, on a major matter of importance....can win them over. They have and will follow him anywhere. This question of 'why' has been asked in our military since the days of the revolution war. George Washington had it asked at Valley Forge to him. Ike had it asked of him prior to D-Day in Europe. Other militaries see this question being asked as insuborination and punish it. Here we embrace it to a large degree if asked respectfully, because often it saves men's lives in combat. Every man and woman that has been in a leadership role in the miltiary.....has had it asked of him one time or another.

If Barak cannot or will not answer it....he doesnot deserve to be thier Commander in Chief. The green zone is a great place for a debate on National Secuirty matters. It brings both debaters into a reality of war and makes them honest before these men and women. You cannot fool a private that just had his buddy killed in a IED attack. You cannot treat lightly a sargeant that just had a man die in his arms. You cannot side track a junior grade officer on his 3rd tour there with a family here.
They deserve some honesty from both Obama and McCain. This is a great place,time,way to get it.

Besides Dude....I quote again...."I will debate McCain or George Bush on National Security issues anytime, anyplace, and anyway" Does not your canidate stand by his words? If McCain accepts the debate and choses the Green Zone....and he refuses...he loses the election....after he has said that. It is that simple. Americans will see him as a coward to be with the men and women in harms way. And you got to know....that two Presidential canidates in the Green zone.....on a announced debate.....are a target.

RE: Obama for Presidnet!.....Heptachromic

GWB in his meeting with Abbas....just said he is 100% in support of a
Palestine country. That has been his position along, Opal. He wants them to have a homeland with borders. They just seem to want to attack Israel when ever they get a chance.

Abbas also said he sees peace before the end of 2008 at least for
Fatah on the west bank. Seems to me there is something shaking and baking in the middle east on peace accords. Be nice to have yes? Also nice to have at least one faction of the Palestines with a homeland of borders.

You cannot force that on all Palestine.....but one is better than none it seems to me. Shows that it can be done. Gives a hope that it can be done in the future.

RE: Obama for Presidnet!.....Heptachromic

My feeling on Teddy Kennedy medical issue. I wish him well and a fast recovery. My politics is is not the same. But the Kennedy family has given our country much. He has made mistakes, but who has not?

So get well Teddy....help Obama lose in November.

RE: Obama for Presidnet!.....Heptachromic

Also by your quote, when Hamas or Hezbollah fires rockets into Isreal.
You are saying that Isreal has full military right to defend herself?
So putting those tanks into Gaza and attack copter over head is OK with you. Why to go Dude...you are learning.

RE: Obama for Presidnet!.....Heptachromic

Why not stop it before the attack occurs, Dude? How is that for an idea? Mean why do say 100,000 Isreali have to die, because someone
underestimates Iran's resolve to attack it with nucs?

The number of times that the Iran President has said he would attack Israel and/or the United States is in low 100s. Everytime you place mike in front his face....the words go....."Destroy Isreal". Why don't you want us to take this guy at his word? Take him seriously?

Heck the US has nucs....we had 9/11, the USS Cole, the African Embassy attacks.....having nucs is not a deterant to terrorism.

RE: Obama for Presidnet!.....Heptachromic

Just a little Iraq War and Lebanon news on this post.

Iraqi operations around Mosul have netted some suspected 1068 AlQeada.

The Iraqi Gov't weapon turn in program is bearing results, weapons from persons that have not killed are being accepted and cash
rewards are being paid.

According the US Central Command, 'this was the last AlQeada stronghold in Iraq.' The operation was done primarily by the
Iraqi Defense Force (IDF).

Further military operations of Iraqi forces are being conducted on the border towns and cities with Syria.

Sadyr city in Baghdad is quiet with Iraqi and American forces reoccuping positions with in it.

Some of my thoughts on the 3 day Hezbollah attacks in Lebanon.

One has to ask himself 'why' occupy sections of southern Beruit for
only 3 days to give back control of the city areas to the Lebanese
gov't and military. This is what Hezbollah did. My analysis would be
the following:

1. Hezbollah resources of funding, manpower and weapons
is low. That the French peace keepers have been doing
a good job in intridiction of weapons from Syria/Iran.
That international funding sources for Hezbollah is
falling. Lastly that Hezbollah manpower that might
have gone elsewhere in the middle east, has reduced
the manpower it has within Lebanon. Is it anyone more
than another? I don't know. Likely a combination of all
three reasons.

2. Hezbolah did not want to get into a siege fight like
AlQeada did in Tripoli several months ago with the
Lebanese Army. If they stay in the areas of Southern
Beruit, the Lebanese Army would eventually brought
in heavy weapons to displace them. Would have sealed
off the areas. It would have been a defeat in Lebanon
for Hezbollah.

Also this.

Hezbollah has not fired many rockets into Northern Isreal since the French peace keeping force were deployed. Another indication that
French peace keeping is effective.

Good things for two troubled countries in the middle east.

RE: The Anatomy of a Forum Discussion...

My question is it one of the new environmentally friendly light bulb?
Or is it a traditional lite bulb? Or flourescent lightbulb?

Please note the different spellings of lightbulb

Thanks all for the giggleslaugh

RE: Obama for Presidnet!.....Heptachromic

I found it of interest Obama's challenge to debate on National Security issues with McCain and GWB....'anytime, anyplace, and anyways'.

I have a place, a time, and a way.

Place: Green Zone, Baghdad Iraq

Time: Anytime after his Dem nomination is secured to Nov. 3rd

Way: No monitors or pre screen questions. Face to face debate in front of 2000+ American men and women in service in Iraq with 200
leading Iraqi leaders in attendance. Broadcast live back to the US.
40 minute of open face to face debate. 20 minute of open questions
from those in attendance, including Iraqi leaders.

If Barak wants to have a honest debate on National Security issues, what better place to have it? Before the men and women he would lead if elected President. If Barak thinks that wars are won and lost with words with foreign gov't leaders, then his telling this to men
and women that daily face IEDs, sniper fire, motars, and other dangers seems some how fair to me.

Also seems fair to me that he address these Iraqi leaders. That are
counting on American assistance to make the country work. He wants to do a withdrawal to 65,000 and only chase AlQeada in Iraq. Fine maybe they have a few questions as well for him. To reduce funding to this effort, let him answer thier questions.

Maybe we can get some people from Afghanistan to attend as well. Both of our forces there and from the Karisi gov't. They might have a few issues to talk with either of the canidates.

This would be the most watched debate that they would have.

What do you think? Good idea?

RE: Obama for Presidnet!.....Heptachromic

Now Indy, using those those Christian terms like..... shearing the sheep....and sheeps to slaughter.......a wolf among sheep.....wolf in sheep's clothing....they don't make an impression on the far left.

You need to make a conspriracy of it. Then you got thier attention. Like this.

The Gov't agent dressed (sheep's clothing) like a young college student to sneak into the Obama headquarters to get info for the Bush Administration and McCain's staffers to use against Obama. He slipped into their midst as easily (wolf among sheep) as any college student would. Once trusted by them, he (shearing the sheep) was able to take important documents of Obama next campaign moves.
These (sheep to slaughter) led directly to Obama lose of the 2008 Presidential election.

Predicted future passage in the far left kos blog after Obama's November 2008 election lose to the McCain.

RE: Obama for Presidnet!.....Heptachromic

So what you are really saying here....is that if you are the world's remaining super power.....it just plain wrong of you to use military force. That is the way it sound to me, Dude. That if the United States being the strongest kid on the block uses military force.....it is already illegal just because he is the strongest kid of the block.

Do I have it right?

RE: Obama for Presidnet!.....Heptachromic

Here here! thumbs up

RE: Obama for Presidnet!.....Heptachromic

That is a great idea.....they take the oath of office......and then the Chief Justice of the Supreme Court (he issues the oath of office) gets a dice out and rolls it on the red carpet in front of them. The number that comes up is the number of years they get!

LOL...imagine a McCain win with a die role of 6 years. LOL........far lefters would be streaming out the country the day after.

If Obama wins....you better check the dice before you roll it.....to see if the corners have been shaved to roll a 6.

Kind of remind me of Monoploy or other board games. If the elected person......says it was an unfair cast of the die......he has to invade
Denmark to get a re throw.

Shucks I feel we should add other concepts of board games into this. Like.....Mr. Potatoe Head.....where you start out with a potatoe.....then add parts to it to make a face. We can use that to determine the Dem nomination. First one done with a Mr. Potatoe gets the nomination.
You get parts for your Mr. Potatoe head by clearing up messes made by the DNC.cheers

RE: Obama for Presidnet!.....Heptachromic

Actually there are several proposals to shorten in down now. After the
Democratic party display of democracy this last 18 months.....most here
are tiring and saying enough. One is a national primary and is to have 4 sectional primaries. This would end each state having thier own primary and the mess of the exclusion of FL and MI Dem voters.

Likely shorten down the process by 6-8 months.

My other questions would be does your definition of 'all the rest of civilized nations' include the following...Iran, Zimboway, Syria, North Korea, Gaza (post Hamas control)...because if it does, I am happy to have the US excluded from your definition of civilized.

Finally what would you consider more important issue.......this is only involves the leadership of a super power with nuclear weapons that is in two conflicts in the world. Does that rate in your top 20 of issues? top 10 issues? top 5 issues? Gets right up at the top of the list when worded in that manner, yes?

American people are trying to make good choice here. Flip the news chanel if you get tired of hearing about it, is my advice. Still quiet a while till November elections. Alot more to go.cheers

RE: Obama for Presidnet!.....Heptachromic

Dude, I have read far left solutions for Isreal/Palestine conflict that run the gambit. From Isreal breaking into small city states...to ending Isreal as a country. This to the Isreali is not about land. Is about the Iran nuc threat that is the central issue to them.

Land might be the central issue to the Palestines. But Hezbollah and Hamas are only the delivery means for the Iranian nuc. Isreal will go to the source......destroy that....not the delivery means.

RE: Obama for Presidnet!.....Heptachromic

Iran gives up it nuclear programs or allow IAEI inspections, one can hope for that.

All depends on Iranian leadership......think either will happen?

RE: Obama for Presidnet!.....Heptachromic

Reread my post. My comment was about the 'far left solution for Isreal/Palestine', Dude. Not sure the UN and the far left are one yet.....but they seem very close at times.

RE: Obama for Presidnet!.....Heptachromic

So you think that few miles of land.....on the Golden Hieghts, West Bank and around Jewserlem is going to alter Iranian President deisre to end Isreal as a country?

Even if Isreal gave it back.....and they will not......he is going to attack them with Nucs once he has them. One nuc in Hafia and Tel Avia, Isreal ends as a country. Isreal will not let this happen. They will go preemptive prior to it. The only way Isreal weapon can strike Iran today....is thier nuclear tipped tactile missiles. None of their aircraft have the range to make the trip. So you are in Isreal's place.

A President that will talk to your enemy is elected to the office. What will you do? They don't have much choice, Isreali nucs to Iran, Dude.

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